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    Stanelis's Avatar
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Another factor is that might been understaffed and had a slower development for this.
    Got to keep manpower available to design all the cash shop items
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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    Got to keep manpower available to design all the cash shop items
    The irony is that the cash shop is the one source of revenue that goes back into the game, iirc
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    The irony is that the cash shop is the one source of revenue that goes back into the game, iirc
    Yeah sure, and money grow on trees.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    The irony is that the cash shop is the one source of revenue that goes back into the game, iirc

    I heavily doubt this now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Another factor is that might been understaffed and had a slower development for this.
    Another thing to consider is that the housing wards and housing changes we got recently were not intended to be released at that point. Those were released in response to the enormous uproar over the Shirogane launch.

    It's possible this contributed to Eureka being delayed.
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    im pretty sure they searched the fun in it. and at some point they just had to release it without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmmaVirgin View Post
    im pretty sure they searched the fun in it. and at some point they just had to release it without it.
    Fun is subjective. I find it fun with my friends from FC/LS and cross server friends. I don't find expert roulettes fun, maybe you love grinding that for months? I like savage, maybe you don't like it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Fun is subjective. I find it fun with my friends from FC/LS and cross server friends. I don't find expert roulettes fun, maybe you love grinding that for months? I like savage, maybe you don't like it?
    Cool story.

    Eureka put me to sleep last night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Each time I'm reading something like the highlighted part, I wonder: Do you find this content only fun with your friends? Maybe even because of your friends? Because you're doing it with them, maybe even in VoiceChat, talking about some nonsense, while grinding mobs?
    Its not meant as attack, everyone is entitled to like different things, but I cant help but wonder: Is this content good and fun enough that you'd enjoy it by yourself? Or is it more the company of your friends that you're enjoying here while Eureka without them would bore you to death aswell in 10 minutes?
    Because if it would, its not the achievment of the game that you're having fun with that content - its the achievment of your friends/company. And to spend time with them you don't need Eureka...
    Exactly.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 03-16-2018 at 01:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Cool story..
    Tell me what you find fun in this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Each time I'm reading something like the highlighted part, I wonder: Do you find this content only fun with your friends? Maybe even because of your friends? Because you're doing it with them, maybe even in VoiceChat, talking about some nonsense, while grinding mobs?.
    What you said last line sure thing, but we also talk about the stuff that's happening in the game too. We laugh when someone keeps getting aggro and dies, we love it when we get cool items we been grinding for etc. Do I have fun with strangers? Sure thing, in fact I added 4 of them into my discord server last night because they happened to enjoy playing with me too. People don't wanna grind but same time they don't wanna clear content that actually gives them higher ilvl, why? Effort, paying attention to the screen, actually playing? You can never satisfy MMO players in many ways. It's either too much grind or absoluttely nothing to do after the grind fest been happening too fast. You can tell me what you find fun and be realistic about it, asuming you would want some of it to happen in the game? And I've done it many times with strangers and still find it fun. It's grindy`Sure, but I also played plenty of games both online and offline to grind to get myself things i want. Maybe it's the fact I've done it so many times before or simply because I'm not spoiled enough to get things handed at me for no reason? You tell me.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 03-16-2018 at 06:52 AM.

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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Fun is subjective. I find it fun with my friends from FC/LS and cross server friends.
    Each time I'm reading something like the highlighted part, I wonder: Do you find this content only fun with your friends? Maybe even because of your friends? Because you're doing it with them, maybe even in VoiceChat, talking about some nonsense, while grinding mobs?
    Its not meant as attack, everyone is entitled to like different things, but I cant help but wonder: Is this content good and fun enough that you'd enjoy it by yourself? Or is it more the company of your friends that you're enjoying here while Eureka without them would bore you to death aswell in 10 minutes?
    Because if it would, its not the achievment of the game that you're having fun with that content - its the achievment of your friends/company. And to spend time with them you dont need Eureka...
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    As for why the development took so long... yeah, I'd like to know that too...

    My personal theory is that a good portion of time actually went into stuff like the party system and the option to invite players inside the instance.

    My hope is that they spend the first 6 months desperatly trying to come up with something creative, fresh and new and then gave up on it and had to start from scretch. Wouldnt make me happy but more hopeful for the future that they tried something else before Eureka and used this final concept as "Damn, we got nothing...!" instead of actually believing that this is good content that people wanted.
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