What's your first impression of Eureka?

[ChocoFeru]

Uh...sorry but no. It's not a meme to hate it. People hate it because it's dull, not very fun to do, and overall monotonous. There's actual reasons people dislike it and not just because "Ugh we have to put WORK INTO THIS?"

People disliked it because they didn't understand how leveling works.

Now we know it, and it's easy. You don't have to farm 24/7 to level up fast. All you have to do is pop NMs and then move to the next one.

After that, you need to kill the final NM couple of times and 'tadaa', relic.


At least we get a new content to do, one that makes you think just a little and be aware of your surroundings to survive. People got mad because they died every now and then, and had to put a little work into understand what was going on.

Again, stand up and improve.

[DamianFatale]

Eureka isn’t even done. Just wait and see what they add for the next step first. SE probably has more plans for it. Of course it’s a bit empty now.

[Fynlar]

People wanted to farm the relic with repetitive stuff such as FATE grind, dungeon grind, primals grind etc... I find Eureka more entertaining, since it let's you choose how you want to level up. And as you level up, things gets a lot easier and the farm becomes faster exponentially.

What choices, exactly? Kill trash or camp FATEs (although really, they're more like "SS" rank hunts that get marked on your map like FATEs)? There's no quests, no dailies, no dungeons, no roulettes...

If anything, you get way more of a "choice" with traditional leveling in this game.



EDIT to respond to things from the future because yay absurd post limits.

That's because you're too used to "talk to an NPC, he tells you to go there and do that" content, with everything marked on the map.

In Eureka you have to find it and explore the map to continue the Eureka quest (there's a quest, you know) to keep leveling up your elements.

Duh, I know that. The quests still don't give you any exp (on account of them not really being *quests*)

Regardless of whether you think it's WoW-esque or not, quests for exp is a pretty standard thing in this game that is not present in Eureka, and it limits the options for leveling progression whether you'd like to admit to that or not.

Please don't treat me like I have no goddamn clue what I'm doing; I've done nearly every quest in the game, including all those ones that don't necessarily hold your hand throughout.

Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

And all I'm reading here is that you'll only treat opinions that fall in line with yours as valid. These kinds of people weren't fun to "debate" with as a kid, and they still aren't any fun to "debate" with now.

You can join higher level parties. We had a lvl3 Scholar yesterday and we were all lv 8-9

People have already pointed out that the level of your healer basically doesn't matter, because it doesn't impact their ability to heal at all and your HP values never change in Eureka, so as long as they never get hit by anything their performance is pretty much unaffected (a pretty big balance design flaw, as far as I'm concerned)

The only way you'll be getting into a level 8-9 party as a level 3 DPS or tank is as a mooch.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

People disliked it because they didn't understand how leveling works.

Now we know it, and it's easy. You don't have to farm 24/7 to level up fast. All you have to do is pop NMs and then move to the next one.

After that, you need to kill the final NM couple of times and 'tadaa', relic.


At least we get a new content to do, one that makes you think just a little and be aware of your surroundings to survive. People got mad because they died every now and then, and had to put a little work into understand what was going on.

Again, stand up and improve.

Sounds like someone misses the whole point here...People got mad because it's not fun to play.

[TaleraRistain]

Now that I've spent a night in it, I dislike it intensely. If you don't want to join in on the NM farm train, then you aren't going to do anything. A group may start as an exp group and then they all take off when a NM spawns. And the solo exp is just horrible, so you're not going to be able to catch up on your own to the levels that people already insist on having in their groups. There's no ability to explore. There isn't any sort of daily quest or line to give you a reason to go out into the wilds. It's just camp trash mobs (if you can even find a group doing that) or run around chasing NMs.

[ChocoFeru]

What choices, exactly? Kill trash or camp FATEs? There's no quests, no dailies, no dungeons, no roulettes...

If anything, you get way more of a "choice" with traditional leveling in this game.

That's because you're too used to "talk to an NPC, he tells you to go there and do that" content, with everything marked on the map.

In Eureka you have to find it and explore the map to continue the Eureka quest (there's a quest, you know) to keep leveling up your elements.


And yeah, it's all about killing mobs and/or FATEs. Still, you have to pop the NMs and coordinate with others when the NM requires it, like the Chimera NM.

Sounds like someone misses the whole point here...People got mad because it's not fun to play.

Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

That's because you're too used to "talk to an NPC, he tells you to go there and do that" content, with everything marked on the map.

In Eureka you have to find it and explore the map to continue the Eureka quest (there's a quest, you know) to keep leveling up your elements.


And yeah, it's all about killing mobs and/or FATEs. Still, you have to pop the NMs and coordinate with others when the NM requires it, like the Chimera NM.




Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

So you can't accept your own by that logic. :v

[Conando]

Eureka isn’t even done. Just wait and see what they add for the next step first. SE probably has more plans for it. Of course it’s a bit empty now.

The problem with that is it was already in development for a year and a half. After doing it more, I can say it ISN'T completely awful, but it's still not good. At least not for my hands.

[ChocoFeru]

So you can't accept your own by that logic. :v

Your answer doesn't even make any sense, but I guess this is the meme, right? "Eureka is bad, guys! Whoever deffend this must me pointed out and laughed at! haha"


At least we have a big part of the community who didn't give up, working together to find out how to pop new NMs and keep leveling faster.

Improving is fun. Crying is for the weak.

[MuseTraveller]

Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

Okay, I understand how the leveling works. But it's still poorly designed concept. What if I get behind? How do I catch up? Hope for lowbie parties? They are plenty now but won't be for much longer. I cant tag with higher level parties because I hardly get exp and everything can one shot me in their hunting ground. I can't progress much solo, I can't do much with NMs when they are higher level, congestion aside, you are likely to die just getting to it.

There is no choice but to slave over this while the content is active or not do it at all.