What's your first impression of Eureka?

[KyokuhoKensaki]

Now that we learned more about Eureka, we know that:

People wanted to farm the relic with repetitive stuff such as FATE grind, dungeon grind, primals grind etc... I find Eureka more entertaining, since it let's you choose how you want to level up. And as you level up, things gets a lot easier and the farm becomes faster exponentially.

We're too used to have things NOW and FAST. People stressed up the first day because Eureka required a little time to understand it's mechanics.


So, hating Eureka is just a meme. Stand up and improve :3

Uh...sorry but no. It's not a meme to hate it. People hate it because it's dull, not very fun to do, and overall monotonous. There's actual reasons people dislike it and not just because "Ugh we have to put WORK INTO THIS?"

If I have to put genuine work into something, I'd like it to be fun.

[ChocoFeru]

Uh...sorry but no. It's not a meme to hate it. People hate it because it's dull, not very fun to do, and overall monotonous. There's actual reasons people dislike it and not just because "Ugh we have to put WORK INTO THIS?"

People disliked it because they didn't understand how leveling works.

Now we know it, and it's easy. You don't have to farm 24/7 to level up fast. All you have to do is pop NMs and then move to the next one.

After that, you need to kill the final NM couple of times and 'tadaa', relic.


At least we get a new content to do, one that makes you think just a little and be aware of your surroundings to survive. People got mad because they died every now and then, and had to put a little work into understand what was going on.

Again, stand up and improve.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

People disliked it because they didn't understand how leveling works.

Now we know it, and it's easy. You don't have to farm 24/7 to level up fast. All you have to do is pop NMs and then move to the next one.

After that, you need to kill the final NM couple of times and 'tadaa', relic.


At least we get a new content to do, one that makes you think just a little and be aware of your surroundings to survive. People got mad because they died every now and then, and had to put a little work into understand what was going on.

Again, stand up and improve.

Sounds like someone misses the whole point here...People got mad because it's not fun to play.

[ChocoFeru]

What choices, exactly? Kill trash or camp FATEs? There's no quests, no dailies, no dungeons, no roulettes...

If anything, you get way more of a "choice" with traditional leveling in this game.

That's because you're too used to "talk to an NPC, he tells you to go there and do that" content, with everything marked on the map.

In Eureka you have to find it and explore the map to continue the Eureka quest (there's a quest, you know) to keep leveling up your elements.


And yeah, it's all about killing mobs and/or FATEs. Still, you have to pop the NMs and coordinate with others when the NM requires it, like the Chimera NM.

Sounds like someone misses the whole point here...People got mad because it's not fun to play.

Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

[KyokuhoKensaki]

That's because you're too used to "talk to an NPC, he tells you to go there and do that" content, with everything marked on the map.

In Eureka you have to find it and explore the map to continue the Eureka quest (there's a quest, you know) to keep leveling up your elements.


And yeah, it's all about killing mobs and/or FATEs. Still, you have to pop the NMs and coordinate with others when the NM requires it, like the Chimera NM.




Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

So you can't accept your own by that logic. :v

[ChocoFeru]

So you can't accept your own by that logic. :v

Your answer doesn't even make any sense, but I guess this is the meme, right? "Eureka is bad, guys! Whoever deffend this must me pointed out and laughed at! haha"


At least we have a big part of the community who didn't give up, working together to find out how to pop new NMs and keep leveling faster.

Improving is fun. Crying is for the weak.

[MuseTraveller]

Nope. All I'm reading here are excuses from people who still didn't understand how leveling up works, and I'll never accept excuses as opinions.

Okay, I understand how the leveling works. But it's still poorly designed concept. What if I get behind? How do I catch up? Hope for lowbie parties? They are plenty now but won't be for much longer. I cant tag with higher level parties because I hardly get exp and everything can one shot me in their hunting ground. I can't progress much solo, I can't do much with NMs when they are higher level, congestion aside, you are likely to die just getting to it.

There is no choice but to slave over this while the content is active or not do it at all.

[ChocoFeru]

Okay, I understand how the leveling works. But it's still poorly designed concept. What if I get behind? How do I catch up? Hope for lowbie parties? They are plenty now but won't be for much longer. I cant tag with higher level parties because I hardly get exp and everything can one shot me in their hunting ground. I can't progress much solo, I can't do much with NMs when they are higher level, congestion aside, you are likely to die just getting to it.

There is no choice but to slave over this while the content is active or not do it at all.

You can join higher level parties. We had a lvl3 Scholar yesterday and we were all lv 8-9, we killed stuff and did some NMs and the Scholar leveled up to lv6 in an hour. There's space for everyone if they accept you, and so far you can go to higher level parties as a healer, since you will heal the same numbers no matter your level.

If you don't have a healer, then yeah, you might need to level up with people from your level. Shout or make a PF with people around your level, and solved.
Still, with a party of 4 you can level up fast and do all NMs without any problem. There's no need to be 8 members!

Every content gets old when time passes, like new PVP maps for example, when the first day the queue is 5 minutes, and weeks after it takes hours to pop.

I did not come to the forums for a meme, I came to the forums to show my voice that waiting for 6 months on this no content existing place should not be something to be proud of. It is diadem stripped away some extras it offered. There is nothing new to it, there is nothing innovative about it, it is flat out boring with outdated gear as rewards.

Gear will always be outdated. Every single relic was outdated. Raid gear will always be the top one, we knew that since 2.0.

And it's not Diadem, not even close. In Eureka you have your own level, and NMs spawns when you pop them (not just random FATEs like Diadem).

And it might look pretty simple, but you can use that to summarize FFXIV's content as well; "it's all about leveling up and gear up, this is so boring!"


Maybe the problem is that you don't like the game? What do you expect from an MMORPG, or what did you want Eureka to be?

[KyokuhoKensaki]

You can join higher level parties. We had a lvl3 Scholar yesterday and we were all lv 8-9, we killed stuff and did some NMs and the Scholar leveled up to lv6 in an hour. There's space for everyone if they accept you, and so far you can go to higher level parties as a healer, since you will heal the same numbers no matter your level.

If you don't have a healer, then yeah, you might need to level up with people from your level. Shout or make a PF with people around your level, and solved.
Still, with a party of 4 you can level up fast and do all NMs without any problem. There's no need to be 8 members!

Every content gets old when time passes, like new PVP maps for example, when the first day the queue is 5 minutes, and weeks after it takes hours to pop.

So uh, how much are you getting paid to shill this?

[BillyKaplan]

Every content gets old when time passes, like new PVP maps for example, when the first day the queue is 5 minutes, and weeks after it takes hours to pop.

And you make that sound like it's not an issue. I have two Anima weapons at Lux. I could do them whenever the hell I wanted because the content they required was completely detached and general. If it's not this dungeon it's that dungeon and I have daily and weekly quests to help me along. Granted that's post nerfs but the core concept holds - past relics were without context which means they could be done at any point a player chooses. Eureka kills that because unless they nerf it to the ground (which I imagine they ultimately will, they HAVE to with how it's built) and let monsters your level or even lower drop the items at an increased rate so you can actually complete this solo within your next three lifetimes, anyone who joins after the initial hype will never be able to get those items. Between the horrible grind and how outdated the awards will be, Eureka was not designed to last even with the glamours beying dyable, and that's horrible design no matter how enjoyable you find the content to be. Anything really worth anything being untradable will further kill it because it can't even be used as a source of revenue