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  1. #1
    Player
    DamianFatale's Avatar
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Eureka isn’t even done. Just wait and see what they add for the next step first. SE probably has more plans for it. Of course it’s a bit empty now.
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Eureka isn’t even done. Just wait and see what they add for the next step first. SE probably has more plans for it. Of course it’s a bit empty now.
    The problem with that is it was already in development for a year and a half. After doing it more, I can say it ISN'T completely awful, but it's still not good. At least not for my hands.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I like those my heads/hand hurts posts.
    Ppl (should) press like 30-50 buttons a minute whatever they're doing, wherever they are.
    Then there are slightly different mechanics and/or downtimes, with a handfull encounters where those make things interesting, but 80% of those are not "farmable" anyway until late in patch or even done by a huge amount of players. That's it.

    If I choose to do something for like 1-2h, I don't see why my hands or head should hurt less after ex primal farm, A1s/A9s farm for HW relic, hidden canals farm, things like tank mount farms in whatever content and pretty much every other stuff....
    than after hitting higher level monsters nearby NM spawn locations and then doing those.
    Most of the difference are rewards/what you're going for and the amount of slackers slowing your progress, while you spam your buttons (hopefully in an optimal way) and talk to people in discord. My hands dont feel a difference and my head is somewhere else anyway mostly.
    Pretty much like MH:W after few hundred hours and now farming for small/big crowns. You only do such stuff if you kind of enjoy the core game, which obv. many ppl dont seem to like here and they realize that on every new content.

    Sure they can add many things ppl mentioned here to mix things a litle bit up. But an escort mission, daily hunts, stuff similar to PotD pomanders or more rewards wont turn hate into love, lol.
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    Kiraine Kalivarsa
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    Faerie
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    If I choose to do something for like 1-2h, I don't see why my hands or head should hurt less after ex primal farm, A1s/A9s farm for HW relic, hidden canals farm, things like tank mount farms in whatever content and pretty much every other stuff...
    Every single thing you listed has pauses and breaks. Chain pulling monsters, by its very nature, has zero breaks. If there's a pause your group is trash.

    So, yes, after doing my rotation for more than 30 minutes my hands started to cramp. It's primarily from holding down and pumping the shoulder buttons for so long.

    Thankfully I've come to the realization that I was playing the game like it was FFXI and not what it actually is: Diadem 3.0. So that won't be a problem tomorrow night.
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    I like those my heads/hand hurts posts.
    That's a really terrible thing to say about hands hurting. Like, genuinely terrible.

    The rest of your post just blatantly overlooks the difference between this content (sitting in one spot doing literally the same thing over and over with no downtime or breaks at all) which only really has Diadem 1.0 as a 1:1 comparison to (which not coincidentally had people complaining about the same issue).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    That's a really terrible thing to say about hands hurting. Like, genuinely terrible.
    All I'm saying is that if your hands hurt here, your Hands must hurt in pretty much every other content, because the amount of buttons you spam per minute is the same.

    The rest of your post just blatantly overlooks the difference between this content (sitting in one spot doing literally the same thing over and over with no downtime or breaks at all) which only really has Diadem 1.0 as a 1:1 comparison to (which not coincidentally had people complaining about the same issue).
    Then just take a break.
    Am I missing something? You can just pause for 1-2 min after every 30-chain pull for example, so what?
    Do people really say that A1s/A9s farm was waaaay better because you had a loading screen now and then which "allowed you to pause a bit"? Lol.

    Because of this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    If there's a pause your group is trash.

    So, that's true for all the other contents, too.
    A1s at all? Your group is trash, bc srsly A9s was way more efficient. A1s with more than 2 heal/tanks combined? Super-trash.
    A9s was: Burn faust, when he's about to die move already towards boss, ignore all adds and burn boss before faust add spawns, ignore chests and leave asap, reque asap (no "I need to repair/trade in tokens/tomestones" pls).
    If not "your group was trash".

    This content is waaaaaaay more "take a short break" friendly than any other grind content. Because it's no problem to say "brb, 2 min" while the other 7 just continue with killing mobs, compared to holding back the whole group because you need to go to the bathroom quick.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 03-15-2018 at 08:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    All I'm saying is that if your hands hurt here, your Hands must hurt in pretty much every other content, because the amount of buttons you spam per minute is the same.
    Yes, per minute, but no, not the same over a long period of time.

    And yes, you absolutely can take a break. But no, thoughtless content designed to be primed for carpal tunnel isn't well-designed content.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Once you know the mechanics and how NMS work it makes it more interesting and fun. Currently working on finishing my +2 weapons and reallyw ant to see how the Anemos weapons are.
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