What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Youkulm]

Wanna go back to atmas ?.

How is this not Atma? You're killing mobs hoping for rare drops. Sounds like Atma & Fate crystals to me. There is zero reason this couldn't be overworld content. We didn't need diadem 3.0. We also didn't have to wait 6 months for 4.0's relic if this was all they were going to do.

[Albieros]

Sure, some jobs will get their share out of it in the form of an ilv350 weapon.

a shitty 350, you can spend a day at most learning byakko and get a 350 weapon too, I know the relic has more materia slots but by the time you are actually done with the grind you will most likely already have a higher ilvl tome weapon and if you raid you already have a far superior weapon too, what was SE thinking man

[Kaonis]

B) We dont know what drop rates are like at higher levels and from better mobs, and the strategy might change at higher levels.

Your argument here is basically the grind won't be so bad maybe but only after you already do another grind. Grinding to grind is simply lazy and bad game design.

C) People need to stop presuming they know the entirety of the content from spending 5mins inside. Its fine if you don't like it, but don't presume to know the impact that it has on the rewards or the rest of the game from such limited experience.

And people need to stop presuming there's some hidden oasis of content that no one has discovered yet. Eureka, like Diadem, like hunts, like fates, like Atma grinding, is shallow content.

[Raim]

Its the kind of content that raises the question, "Did the dev team actually try this for a significant amount of time beforehand?" I can't imagine someone approving this given the farming required and the payoff being subpar to most people.

[Benny909]

Agreed! "OH WE CANT FIX SAM BECAUSE THIS INTENSE CONTENT IS TAKING ALL OF OUR TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ........... yeah how about NO!

[Rhus]

Can't get the board to spin...

[Kohdo]

People need to stop presuming they know the entirety of the content from spending 5mins inside. Its fine if you don't like it, but don't presume to know the impact that it has on the rewards or the rest of the game from such limited experience.

Individual players have now spent hours inside. Collectively, we've days worth of experience to go on. If there's anything more to Eureka circa 4.25 than grinding mobs, it's pretty well hidden.

[TheDraco4011]

ilvl is the same as the current normal raid. HAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!

[Kewitt]

What se needs to do...
Bis raid
2nd bis tomes
3rd bis grind but not so bad that I can gear all my jobs to better then last raid gear in a timely manner. Not grind out one job over 3 to 4 weeks Becuase between tome capping savage raiding. Family work and friend not even including this isn't the only game I play to pass my time. Some weeks I have to fight myself just to get cap so I don't get behind.

[Arkdra]

Sure, it's grind, sure, it's braindead content, sure... that's what grind is...

But what exactly did you all expect ? That's the relic... The relic has always been a hell of a grind. Wanna go back to atmas ? Books ? Hundreds of time the same four gordias NM instances ? That's relic. With a diadem aspect. And it's still more fun than atmas were, IMO... so yeah, maybe your expectations were off.

Literally every other relic step is more engaging than this. Frankly, I've liked most of the relic steps with the exception of the ones that involve light grinding. Even though I just trashed fates earlier, I would still much, much, much rather be having to grind fates than just pulling monsters over and over and over. This entire zone is conceptually ill-conceived and I would actually be less angry if we had to do diadem instead. Diadem was lousy but it at least put you in a group, gave you clear goals, and was over in relatively short order.