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  1. #131
    Player
    Youkulm's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Arle Egress
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Wanna go back to atmas ?.
    How is this not Atma? You're killing mobs hoping for rare drops. Sounds like Atma & Fate crystals to me. There is zero reason this couldn't be overworld content. We didn't need diadem 3.0. We also didn't have to wait 6 months for 4.0's relic if this was all they were going to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

  2. #132
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    Albieros's Avatar
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    Albieros Brave
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Sure, some jobs will get their share out of it in the form of an ilv350 weapon.
    a shitty 350, you can spend a day at most learning byakko and get a 350 weapon too, I know the relic has more materia slots but by the time you are actually done with the grind you will most likely already have a higher ilvl tome weapon and if you raid you already have a far superior weapon too, what was SE thinking man
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  3. #133
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    Kaonis's Avatar
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    Character
    Vayne Kaonis
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    B) We dont know what drop rates are like at higher levels and from better mobs, and the strategy might change at higher levels.
    Your argument here is basically the grind won't be so bad maybe but only after you already do another grind. Grinding to grind is simply lazy and bad game design.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    C) People need to stop presuming they know the entirety of the content from spending 5mins inside. Its fine if you don't like it, but don't presume to know the impact that it has on the rewards or the rest of the game from such limited experience.
    And people need to stop presuming there's some hidden oasis of content that no one has discovered yet. Eureka, like Diadem, like hunts, like fates, like Atma grinding, is shallow content.
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  4. #134
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    Raim's Avatar
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    Character
    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Its the kind of content that raises the question, "Did the dev team actually try this for a significant amount of time beforehand?" I can't imagine someone approving this given the farming required and the payoff being subpar to most people.
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  5. #135
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    Agreed! "OH WE CANT FIX SAM BECAUSE THIS INTENSE CONTENT IS TAKING ALL OF OUR TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ........... yeah how about NO!
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  6. #136
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    Rhus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Y'dyalani Rhus
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Can't get the board to spin...
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  7. #137
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    Kohdo's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Kodoyaki Takoyaki
    World
    Sephirot
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    People need to stop presuming they know the entirety of the content from spending 5mins inside. Its fine if you don't like it, but don't presume to know the impact that it has on the rewards or the rest of the game from such limited experience.
    Individual players have now spent hours inside. Collectively, we've days worth of experience to go on. If there's anything more to Eureka circa 4.25 than grinding mobs, it's pretty well hidden.
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  8. #138
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    TheDraco4011's Avatar
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    Character
    Draycona Rylai
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 70
    ilvl is the same as the current normal raid. HAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!
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  9. #139
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Character
    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    What se needs to do...
    Bis raid
    2nd bis tomes
    3rd bis grind but not so bad that I can gear all my jobs to better then last raid gear in a timely manner. Not grind out one job over 3 to 4 weeks Becuase between tome capping savage raiding. Family work and friend not even including this isn't the only game I play to pass my time. Some weeks I have to fight myself just to get cap so I don't get behind.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  10. #140
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Sure, it's grind, sure, it's braindead content, sure... that's what grind is...

    But what exactly did you all expect ? That's the relic... The relic has always been a hell of a grind. Wanna go back to atmas ? Books ? Hundreds of time the same four gordias NM instances ? That's relic. With a diadem aspect. And it's still more fun than atmas were, IMO... so yeah, maybe your expectations were off.
    Literally every other relic step is more engaging than this. Frankly, I've liked most of the relic steps with the exception of the ones that involve light grinding. Even though I just trashed fates earlier, I would still much, much, much rather be having to grind fates than just pulling monsters over and over and over. This entire zone is conceptually ill-conceived and I would actually be less angry if we had to do diadem instead. Diadem was lousy but it at least put you in a group, gave you clear goals, and was over in relatively short order.
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