What's your first impression of Eureka?

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Sure, it's grind, sure, it's braindead content, sure... that's what grind is...

But what exactly did you all expect ? That's the relic... The relic has always been a hell of a grind. Wanna go back to atmas ? Books ? Hundreds of time the same four gordias NM instances ? That's relic. With a diadem aspect. And it's still more fun than atmas were, IMO... so yeah, maybe your expectations were off.

[Stanelis]

But what exactly did you all expect ? That's the relic... The relic has always been a hell of a grind..

You mean always been a grind except in 2.0 when it wasn't and nobody complained about it ?

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

You mean always been a grind except in 2.0 when it wasn't and nobody complained about it ?

Like ATMAs were any better... or books were any better... or lights were any better... Or lights once again were any better...

[Skos]

Like ATMAs were any better... or books were any better... or lights were any better... Or lights once again were any better...

They were because they gave you variety.

This is literally killing the same overworld mob over and over again.
There's no challenge. No variety. There's no fun.

People don't realise the grind isn't the issue. It's a relic weapon. It's gonna be a grind.
But at least previous relic grinds had some variety to it.

You know what the scariest part is? The entire relic chains is going to be connected to Eureka and Eureka only. Hope you're ready to grind more Protean/Anemos Crystals for your future relic steps.

[Stanelis]

Like ATMAs were any better... or books were any better... or lights were any better... Or lights once again were any better...

I'm talking specifically about the 2.0 step here. You know, with chimera and hydra and without any grind involved ?

[Youkulm]

Wanna go back to atmas ?.

How is this not Atma? You're killing mobs hoping for rare drops. Sounds like Atma & Fate crystals to me. There is zero reason this couldn't be overworld content. We didn't need diadem 3.0. We also didn't have to wait 6 months for 4.0's relic if this was all they were going to do.

[Deceptus]

We also didn't have to wait 6 months for 4.0's relic if this was all they were going to do.

QFT

/10char

[Arkdra]

Sure, it's grind, sure, it's braindead content, sure... that's what grind is...

But what exactly did you all expect ? That's the relic... The relic has always been a hell of a grind. Wanna go back to atmas ? Books ? Hundreds of time the same four gordias NM instances ? That's relic. With a diadem aspect. And it's still more fun than atmas were, IMO... so yeah, maybe your expectations were off.

Literally every other relic step is more engaging than this. Frankly, I've liked most of the relic steps with the exception of the ones that involve light grinding. Even though I just trashed fates earlier, I would still much, much, much rather be having to grind fates than just pulling monsters over and over and over. This entire zone is conceptually ill-conceived and I would actually be less angry if we had to do diadem instead. Diadem was lousy but it at least put you in a group, gave you clear goals, and was over in relatively short order.

[Remedi]

Literally every other relic step is more engaging than this. Frankly, I've liked most of the relic steps with the exception of the ones that involve light grinding. Even though I just trashed fates earlier, I would still much, much, much rather be having to grind fates than just pulling monsters over and over and over. This entire zone is conceptually ill-conceived and I would actually be less angry if we had to do diadem instead. Diadem was lousy but it at least put you in a group, gave you clear goals, and was over in relatively short order.

Literally all other relics steps have been heavily criticised one way or another, I was telling ppl that there could be worse type of content when the first anima quest was related and that they should've been more careful.
Ppl are reaping what they sow, the lack of visions of some is the exact reason why I don't want a PTR ever because that won't change anything about what we get