4.25 and beyond

[Missbone]

I dont get why so many allways say that they are bored so to fast with this game, most of them dont even have maxed out their character (all jobs 70). This game has mutch more to offer and to do than most other MMOs out there. Sure the combat could be a bit faster (2.40 GCD is realy bit slow), but if you just focus on one direction (and i guess for the majority its pve raids) its your own fault. You have a lot of mini games you can enjoy, various Gathering and Crafting professions, collecting stuff like mounts and minions. Alone the housing is a not to small endgame part for its if you do it serious. And lets not forget pvp, achievments and sight seeing log (getting every sightseeing entry alone will take you several days). Oh and last but not least you also can spend a lot of time with desinging several outfits and glamouring your char.

Sure there could allways be more new stuff, but if you not even have done the half and allready get bored its not the games fault. Than this kind of game is simply nothing for you.

[Darrcyphfeid]

I dont get why so many allways say that they are bored so to fast with this game, most of them dont even have maxed out their character (all jobs 70). This game has mutch more to offer and to do than most other MMOs out there. Sure the combat could be a bit faster (2.40 GCD is realy bit slow), but if you just focus on one direction (and i guess for the majority its pve raids) its your own fault. You have a lot of mini games you can enjoy, various Gathering and Crafting professions, collecting stuff like mounts and minions. Alone the housing is a not to small endgame part for its if you do it serious. And lets not forget pvp, achievments and sight seeing log (getting every sightseeing entry alone will take you several days). Oh and last but not least you also can spend a lot of time with desinging several outfits and glamouring your char.

Sure there could allways be more new stuff, but if you not even have done the half and allready get bored its not the games fault. Than this kind of game is simply nothing for you.

But what if someone that's done the overwhelming majority of things in this game decides to come in and tell you, from personal experience, that your argument holds absolutely no water? That everything you're telling people to go do, even if they don't enjoy it, also takes no more than a handful of (repetitive) hours each to complete? Then what?

Hurp-a-durp let's go collect all the Triple Triad cards, youse gais! Oh it's been maybe 35 hours dedicated to this expansive, 220-card system that's been built upon for three years and we're already finished? Welp!
And most of that involves repeatedly grinding instances to get random drops, not even playing the Triple Triad card game itself. Which is even easier than when I did it because they've removed the timers from NPCs, removed the Random ruleset, and they tell you in-game whether you've beaten the NPCs and if you're missing cards from them still without having to rely on a third-party website.

Example 2: The sightseeing log doesn't take "days" to complete, it takes maybe two hours of in-game effort. As with the "fishing endgame," most of your damn time is spent not actually doing the thing you're trying to do while looking at a third-party website every couple hours to see if the thing you want is even available or not. HW and SB sightseeing logs, the pair from the Kugane jumping puzzle aside, largely don't even have time or weather conditions and you can merrily fly around and pick them all up in like 30 minutes. Mostly even without a cheat sheet because they've got giant floating balls drawing your attention to them from half a mile away.

All of which ignores that this isn't even the subject of this thread, which is decidedly in the realm of breaking the status quo and not doubling down by adding in more of what we've already got for the nth time.

[Alleo]

I dont get why so many allways say that they are bored so to fast with this game, most of them dont even have maxed out their character (all jobs 70).

Fast? Its not like some of us have been playing for years? And even if I level up all my jobs it would still be with the same content that I already did so much before..I can either throw myself at the next x amount of Fates that I already did enough, throw myself in the dungeon that I already did x amount of runs or throw myself in the Palace which I have already seen a big amount of time since I try to do it solo..(and which is bad with all the laggs and DC right now) Diadem is death..I tried to go into this for mats twice and stoped the queue after like an hour of nearly being alone in it..So there is simply no other content (outside of PVP but PVPers dont like that people just use that for leveling and dont take it serious enough..which I can understand) where I can level up my characters which is something completely new...heck Eureka has its own level system so we cant even level there.

So no I will not accept the argument that just because you dont have everything on max does not mean someone cant complain...and all the mini games are just side flavour that you do if you are bored..but again SE made them a huge RNG grind.

Housing and crafting right now is the only part that keeps me logged in..but not everyone cares about that..you simply need at least one or two new battle systems in an expansion otherwise people will lose interest, especially if we have to pay for the expansion itself and the sub and on top of that lost a dungeon.