Samurai and Red Mage

[Shiroe]

in most normal comps, blm are ok dps-wise, .. but ofc still too low compared to most dps and their dps raid buffs..

while in most standard comps sam is still just as good as blm (sam will eat the drg dragon sight or profit from mnks brotherhood... or embolden)

still, blm and sam need a (slight) buff.., smn and mnk are both OP, especially mnk atm

my opionions:

give blm a slight magic vun buff on target of 3-5%


increase sams slashing by +3(-5)

increase embolden by a tick, but make it magic vun too (there are less magic vun buffs)

[PatronasCharm]

For Red Mage, I believe boosting the potency for it's Verspells by 10 would perhaps boost its DPS a bit further.

Jolt II >> Impact (Have it automatically change)

Remove Acceleration and have it as a trait? Perhaps initial Trait = 10% increase, the following be an additional 2%?

Remove Tether!

From the removal of the buttons (Tether /Impact / Acceleration) add Verwater / Verblizzard as AoE rotation with Scatter [Enhanced Scatter Triggers Verblizzard / Verwater]

Emboldment > Increase duration, decrease the potency, and leave it as a percentage instead.

Add an AoE Refresh move for party members / Add Enfire (Increases Direct Hit for all party members) Enstone (Increases defense for party members within range)

Enfire consumes 60 Black Meter / Enstone consumes 60 White meter...

This is my dream, sadly, it's outrageous... but I enjoy being a dreamer lol

[Adventica6]

Still begging for buffs eh, what happens when you yell into a forest when you are alone ? that's what this is.

Sam could use a little nudge, rdm is fine being 13 dps behind nin.

Begging for buffs is what lead to sams current position, they buffed the other classes instead and now you rot while being excluded..

[Maero]

Where do you get that Red Mage is 13 dps behind Ninja? Of course a smn main would say Red Mage is fine.. lol

[Shurrikhan]

Still begging for buffs eh, what happens when you yell into a forest when you are alone ? that's what this is.

Sam could use a little nudge, rdm is fine being 13 dps behind nin.

Begging for buffs is what lead to sams current position, they buffed the other classes instead and now you rot while being excluded..

The bulk of those buffs were generated by basic and necessary functionality fixes that were condemning classes' viability to crippled mush based on a single ill-time death. This is scarcely a "haha, serves you right for playing and carrying about (the toolkit integrity of) something other than your main ( -- Now go despair in the isolation caused by your conscience! -- )" moment...

And what is your source for this "13 dps behind NIN"? Also, even were that the case, it would not be remotely fine, given how much more rDPS NIN is contributing at present.

[Dralonis]

Where do you get that Red Mage is 13 dps behind Ninja? Of course a smn main would say Red Mage is fine.. lol

Also the fact that NIN's are in a much better spot for clearing with their better utility. RDM's are only really good in those groups that die a lot when working on progression and to hit enrage lol. For me, It's pretty much become RDM until the fight is more or less learned/hitting enrage, then switch to SMN and try for a clear. Luckily, the gear is the same, But I'd much prefer to just do the content on my RDM since I love RDM by far. Main reason why I think people like to hate on RDMs and dont want them to get a buff is because it's popular, people like the non overly complexity of the class like SMN's opener or SAM, they like the style, and there's just too many people playing it. Idk why, but since tons of people play it + easy and fun class = it's ok for their DPS to be low. that's probably why they kept buffing MCH. Hardly anyone wants to play it. I love MCH look but I hate it's rotation and playstyle. I'd rather play BRD.

[Adventica6]

And what is your source for this "13 dps behind NIN"? Also, even were that the case, it would not be remotely fine, given how much more rDPS NIN is contributing at present.

Do you have access to google or any form of parsing utility ? I don't get paid enough to spoon feed data.

Sure nin provides more raid damage but that's all it does, rdm, especially in open world content is unstoppable, yes I am a smn main and I mess around with my rdm who shares my high crit/dhit gear, and in dungeons I literally eat mechanics because I can just heal myself,, can nin do that? no they can't.

Now with eureka coming out and some people want to solo, do u think nin is going to do well face tanking high elemental leveled mobs compared to the solo god rdm ? no they won't.

Not every job in the game needs "raids dps utility" I'd rather never die and collect my loot...

This whole "nin is mai god cuz he buff moi" bs needs to stop, it's a boring class with 1 useful ability in raiding which hardly anyone even does...

Now if you want to dispute things further make damn well sure it's worth my time to respond.

[Maero]

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I totally agree with you and have said before simplicity of a job should not determine whether or not a job gets buffs and such..

[Shurrikhan]

Do you have access to google or any form of parsing utility ? I don't get paid enough to spoon feed data.

Sure nin provides more raid damage but that's all it does, rdm, especially in open world content is unstoppable, yes I am a smn main and I mess around with my rdm who shares my high crit/dhit gear, and in dungeons I literally eat mechanics because I can just heal myself,, can nin do that? no they can't.

Now with eureka coming out and some people want to solo, do u think nin is going to do well face tanking high elemental leveled mobs compared to the solo god rdm ? no they won't.

Not every job in the game needs "raids dps utility" I'd rather never die and collect my loot...

This whole "nin is mai god cuz he buff moi" bs needs to stop, it's a boring class with 1 useful ability in raiding which hardly anyone even does...

Now if you want to dispute things further make damn well sure it's worth my time to respond.

My god. There's so much wrong with this... Where do I even start? On using Vercure on yourself when you can just avoid AoEs? On measuring job viability by open-world / solo content?

If you hardly do raiding, why debate RDM viability therein? Or anything's? Push for Summoner open-world fun and tricks if you like, but to suggest that RDM is in no need of buffs as it applies to end-level content -- where those differences really are noticeable -- because they have plentiful open-world utility should be ridiculous to you as well.

rDPS is literally the only universal measure of value. The goal of every single ability in this game, whether through survival or restoration or resource growth or mobility or CC or empowerment, is rDPS.

Worry not; I've said as much as I have for purposes more alike to dealing with and abandoning a painful memory, and have no intention of "debating" further.

[Maero]

No point in trying to make a point Shurrikhan, Adventica clearly does not understand how the jobs work