Im Done

[Divinemights]

Also if we want to get Technical, everyone in FF11 could PvP as well. So saying Final Fantasy didn't have PvP before is a weak argument and I didn't apply the counter argument I was just adding another PvP'ers hear often.

Well then you should know better than others. FF11 starts 1 year early in Japan before open to NA and Ballista was not installed until 6 months after NA release. I loved ballista and even participated in Ballista Royale, but PvP is nevertheless an after thought.

I also can't really recall any pvp centric mmorpg still survive on the market, can you?

[Wintersandman]

I also can't really recall any pvp centric mmorpg still survive on the market, can you?

Eve and lastly, I don't know why you are specifically targeting me but here it is. I have heard every single counter argument that people have given the PvP community. First we get "FFXIV isn't PvP centric". Next we get "If you want PvP go play Overwatch". So my sarcasm flew over your head and I wasn't even replying to you. I was replying to someone else and I responded to that with sarcasm and common counter arguments I see on these forums when it comes to PvP. So continue to come at me when you aren't even really contributing anything of worth.