Im Done

[Enlial]

Lol. And on the housing subforum, you see people saying "go play sims".

[Crit]

Adding 2 or 3 more abilities to every job in its current state would be an amazing compromise.

Botting will forever be a problem, my guess is because SE doesn't know how to deal with it since they only focus on JP's community and I'm almost positive they don't Not? Hope someone corrects me on that

Win-trading hasn't been an issue in feast recently, by recently I mean last season, there were only throwers

As for quick chat, it's actually objectively better than the normal chat for sure because quick phrases at a press of one button is much more efficient, granted strategies can't be communicated and you can't correct people as the match is going on so they adjust immediately but all in all that's what the PvP discords are for, the community is small to begin with so that's not really an issue. Quick chat also did help the toxicity issue for sure, with this community being particularly more sensitive so derogatory connotative use of the phrases is at least healthier.

[Theodric]

There is no excuse for things like win trading and botting not being on the radar of the developers. Very few MMO's have been free of such things - and mysteriously very few MMO's deal with the plague efficiently and swiftly. There's the occasional ban wave, sure, though as a couple of people have pointed out in this very thread you can go months doing PvP and seeing the same individuals botting during that period. To say that it is disheartening would be quite the understatement. That the issue has been 'acknowledged' in the form of being downplayed doesn't help, either. Yoshi-P is on record stating that it isn't as widespread as it made out to be and yet day in, day out that is proven wrong simply by queuing up for the PvP roulette.

I enjoy the game as a whole, though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting close to just giving up on PvP altogether.

[Zojha]

So the learning curve wasn't necessarily the skillset but how to even play the maps.

Minor note: It's both, but the skillset issue still hasn't been resolved.

The difficulty from learning the skillset came from the fact that you had and still have to completely re-learn how to play under the Burst paradigm. It's an entirely different mindset and optimization from the DPS and total damage focused PvE. Whether to hold onto cooldowns or misalign cooldowns for more burst, GCD clipping and the importance of APM, positionals, DoTs, the value of uptime and CC... the considerations are drastically different. You can be a 95th percentile player in PvE and still fail gloriously if you don't ditch everything you've known so far and learn from scratch.

That's still a thing, though, more so than ever. They just gave you less abilities that you can use wrong.

[Kisama]

Yoshi-P is on record stating that it isn't as widespread as it made out to be and yet day in, day out that is proven wrong simply by queuing up for the PvP roulette.

Botting in pvp isn't really a problem in the JP data centers. He probably believes what he says because he's never looked at what we deal with on Aether.

[Wintersandman]

quick phrases at a press of one button is much more efficient

Macros can solve this just as easily. People still have their bongo drum get to the pads from LotA after 4 years.

Minor note: It's both, but the skillset issue still hasn't been resolved.

I agree 100%. Now abilities function completely differently. Still have to read the tooltips and SE's lack of training/information leads to a learning curve.