Something was brought up from a couple of other pals, and I thought I'd share and expand upon what was said. The OP says NA...but really, this is a USA thing, from the comments. Mayhap some folks forgot that NA includes Mexico, Puerto Rico, Canada, the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, and the Bahamas, just to name a few.

Regardless, this whole discussion turned entirely too political once the name Trump was uttered, and we all know political discussions can be fierce and divisive alone.