The general player base needs to improve

[Shouko]

Sadly, I think nothing can be done about it.

Players who aren't willing to learn still won't no matter what you add in the game.
Aside the game, a lot of infos,guide and such can be found, so it's pretty easy if you want to learn a fight,your rotation ect...

This is the problem with gamers of today, instead of figuring it out via trial and error they let someone else tell them how to play their job, aka they go to a guide and do rotations, BIS, what jobs are "meta" what aren't, what's the best for this or that. Millennials tend to rely on guides far too much.

[Callinon]

This is the problem with gamers of today, instead of figuring it out via trial and error they let someone else tell them how to play their job, aka they go to a guide and do rotations, BIS, what jobs are "meta" what aren't, what's the best for this or that. Millennials tend to rely on guides far too much.

There are an awful lot of broad generalizations in there. You want to maybe narrow that down a bit so you're not painting literally millions of people with a brush the size of the all outdoors?

[Kerwin]

There are an awful lot of broad generalizations in there. You want to maybe narrow that down a bit so you're not painting literally millions of people with a brush the size of the all outdoors?

It's bait. Not even high quality bait at that.

[Miggs]

Incompetence seems to increase exponentially with class complexity.
If you want the majority of the player base to reach a higher standard then the classes need to be simpler to play.
Until then, there will always be those that can cope with 3 or 4 bars of skills and those that can't.
Personally...I can't, so I choose simpler classes that don't have too much responsibility and will try to play mostly solo.

[KaivaC]

Incompetence seems to increase exponentially with class complexity.
If you want the majority of the player base to reach a higher standard then the classes need to be simpler to play.
Until then, there will always be those that can cope with 3 or 4 bars of skills and those that can't.
Personally...I can't, so I choose simpler classes that don't have too much responsibility and will try to play mostly solo.

Hmm....so, I'm curious about something. Is this your first class, or is this an alt that you're replying on?

[Miggs]

Hmm....so, I'm curious about something. Is this your first class, or is this an alt that you're replying on?

I'd have thought join date and post count would have answered that for you

Been playing a fair bit of Wildstar and quite liked their system. You have a lot of skills to choose from but can only load out 8 at a time.
Even I could manage that!

[KaivaC]

I'd have thought join date and post count would have answered that for you

Been playing a fair bit of Wildstar and quite liked their system. You have a lot of skills to choose from but can only load out 8 at a time.
Even I could manage that!

There's a quite a few forum members who log into the forums with their alts, rather than their mains, so usually, I try not to assume when responding.

Now with that being said, not to scare you or anything, but the class you chose is probably amongst the most complicated once you unlock your job - thankfully, there's no button overload, but it does take time once you get your full tool kit as a summoner, if you stick down the DPS path. Aside from that, there's really no complexity with the jobs (especially with the streamlining that came with Stormblood). We're probably sitting at a point where rotations are as simple as they can possibly be without neutering the job any more than they are at the moment, so I don't really think that's one of the major issues (it's an issue nonetheless with players not knowing how to do their rotations well past level 60 for whatever reason).

[Gleipni]

Incompetence seems to increase exponentially with class complexity.
If you want the majority of the player base to reach a higher standard then the classes need to be simpler to play.
Until then, there will always be those that can cope with 3 or 4 bars of skills and those that can't.
Personally...I can't, so I choose simpler classes that don't have too much responsibility and will try to play mostly solo.

Lets just make faceroll jobs,like this everyone will be good LEL

THats the entire point,they must NOT lower job complexity,its people who HAVE TO improve,damn why everyone just want rollface thing ? if only we had battle system like xenoblade,Etriand odyssey and stuff,man that would mean something to level up thing.

[Sesera]

Lets just make faceroll jobs,like this everyone will be good LEL

THats the entire point,they must NOT lower job complexity,its people who HAVE TO improve,damn why everyone just want rollface thing ? if only we had battle system like xenoblade,Etriand odyssey and stuff,man that would mean something to level up thing.

It's simple logic here
The less you have to focus on your keybinds the more you can focus on mechanic.

[Shurrikhan]

It's simple logic here
The less you have to focus on your keybinds the more you can focus on mechanic.

The more you build a rhythm to your keybinds through a general logic and muscle memory, the less you have to focus on them, too. Heck, the mechanics can often help in that regard; after some 10 attempts at a given piece of content, I can look at the mechanics to know how many seconds remain on my abilities.