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  1. #151
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    Akor's Avatar
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    Akor Draconic
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Surely ppl will get banned, but first they need to start banning bots.
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  2. #152
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    At least anybody using it after the patch should be insta-banned, no questions of whether or not they knew it was wrong. You might be able to argue that before it became a big deal that you didn't 'know' (although, /eyeroll), but now that it's been mentioned in patch notes as something they're not intending to be a feature, and it's been publicly acknowledged as an unintended exploit, going forward with it 'because you can' isn't just playing with fire, it's shoving fire straight into your mouth.
    Basically this. Now that it’s more or less “explicitly illegal”, anyone caught using it (i.e., trying to blatantly circumvent a hotfix) should be punished. Before the hotfix, I would only extend it to people who used it on multiple occasions and frequently in higher-tier content (like Savage or Ultimate). I wouldn’t permaban someone who used it once or twice out of curiosity in a dungeon or something.
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  3. #153
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Akor View Post
    Its seems they still dint fix the problem, you can still use it, but its tricky now. LUL

    #SEThing
    May as well report it, then. Explaining the method so they don't think it's some 3rd party software behind its use, but some mistake made by SE themselves while coding it.
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  4. #154
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    Sekkei's Avatar
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    Athanasios Seiun
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Yeah, it can still be used. I don't know the details other someone in a linkshell stated in confused disbelief that it was still possible but that it requires some shenanigans (though another term was used) through an ability or something. Oh well. This whole affair is going to be interesting.
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  5. #155
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    And XI never recovered from the Salvage bans.
    Different game altogether you don't really need much time to get ready with a new account here especially if you buy it, the same went for WoW, D3 and so on

    @tridus: Dunno if it's still like that but I remember OW permaban that entirely made impossible to players to register new copies no matter what. I presume it was a IP ban, but I don't know much else about ir so that's I went for that
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    Last edited by Remedi; 03-01-2018 at 05:28 AM.

  6. #156
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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Imagerror View Post
    Like contacting GM Services ingame and known employees you're in contact with via DM on social media who sent it up the ladder but never got a reply?
    Have you done a proper bug report about the Ungarmax issue yourself though? And why wouldn't you use the official forums for that, especially if it's obviously the best place to fill a bug report and see it get accepted or denied.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 03-01-2018 at 05:29 AM.

  7. #157
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    That really depends on how long this has been known and exploited. If claims that people were using this to make gil hand over fist via clearselling are true, should you really just slap a 3 day vacation on them?
    It'd be best to adjust it according to what was gained through its use. Indiscriminately permabanning all who used it, even to frivolous ends with no gain in sight, would be too harsh.
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  8. #158
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    Sekkei's Avatar
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    Athanasios Seiun
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 70
    So any idea how fast the next emergency maintenance is coming? Provided someone tells how SE didn't cover all bases instead of keeping it to themselves for an extended time. Again.
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  9. #159
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    InkstainedGwyn's Avatar
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    It'd be best to adjust it according to what was gained through its use. Indiscriminately permabanning all who used it, even to frivolous ends with no gain in sight, would be too harsh.
    Nobody said 'indiscriminately permabanning' anyone. We said we think that people who knowingly used it to profit should be banned. People who said 'lol watch this' and used it on unsync'd Garuda? Eh. (Although on the other hand I understand the need to be consistent and 'meaningful content' can vary by definition.)
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  10. #160
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Different game altogether you don't really need much time to get ready with a new account here especially if you buy it, the same went for WoW, D3 and so on

    @tridus: Dunno if it's still like that but I remember OW permaban that entirely made impossible to players to register new copies no matter what. I presume it was a IP ban, but I don't know much else about ir so that's I went for that
    Except people bought accounts in xi quite frequently. I can tell you from being there at that time, I know of people that were banned over salvage duping who did exactly that. I'd go as far as to say most of the people I heard of being permabanned for various reasons throughout the years would show back up.
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