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  1. #141
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    Blizzard did imply that they did anything but buy it legally
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  2. #142
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    After read Yoship's formal response, I think SE is auditing their log right now
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  3. #143
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    After read Yoship's formal response, I think SE is auditing their log right now and preparing a mass ban. This is exactly what they did in Ff11 Salvage dupe
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  4. #144
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    After read Yoship's formal response, I think SE is auditing their log right now and preparing a mass ban. This is exactly what they did in Ff11 Salvage dupe
    Honestly, I am torn between the idea of mass banning and the like. I'm more so concerned about the seeming lack of communication (or poor communication) between GMs, forum staff, and the development team.

    I wish they'd be this proactive about the bots, tbh.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Besides permabans are worthless unless you ban the IP, what stops them to just buiyng a new account legally or not?
    As we run low on IPs, ISPs are changing the ones people have more often. Mine doesn't stay the same day to day, typically. An IP ban would mean little unless they started banning entire subnets, which would get innocent people caught up in it.

    If banned people wind up buying a new copy of the game and coming back, that's extra revenue at the end of the day. And it'd be a fair bit of work to recover (and you wouldn't get your house back most likely). So it carries a penalty.
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  6. #146
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    Souji Hanamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    If banned people wind up buying a new copy of the game and coming back, that's extra revenue at the end of the day. And it'd be a fair bit of work to recover (and you wouldn't get your house back most likely). So it carries a penalty.
    Exactly. You can't realistically get rid of someone permanently unless they want to be gone, but you can give them a pretty solid setback by making them spend more money and removing their access to the content they already cleared, be it legitimately or not. On a game like XIV, where people are less likely to make alts (I don't say unlikely, I just say less) because you can do everything on a single character (other than the other two city-states opening questlines), that can sometimes be years of achievements and honestly? If something wiped my main and dropped all of my hard-won mounts, outfits, gear, achievements, minions, etc? I wouldn't start over again.
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  7. #147
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    Its seems they still dint fix the problem, you can still use it, but its tricky now. LUL

    #SEThing
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  8. #148
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    Kana Hisashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I wish they'd be this proactive about the bots, tbh.
    While I am glad people are actually being banned this time unlike the pomander exploit in PvP, I do wish they would deal with bots in general especially in ranked PvP but SE would rather ban players for bad behaviour rather than exploits/ hacking so here we are.

    Plus, I more than approve of mass bannings as long as they're justified, SE probably doesnt want to go the Nexon route and have to apologise for false flags but it's getting really tiring of seeing people cheat, hack and do whatever and get absolutely zero punishment where as calling someone a bad word in the heat of the moment gets a ban. So ridiculous.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Besides permabans are worthless unless you ban the IP, what stops them to just buiyng a new account legally or not?
    It is the same problem that blizzard have discussed about on their games, they saw that ppl permabanned from their games just bought new accounts as such the punishment is less problematic that ppl think it really is
    And XI never recovered from the Salvage bans.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akor View Post
    Its seems they still dint fix the problem, you can still use it, but its tricky now. LUL

    #SEThing
    At least anybody using it after the patch should be insta-banned, no questions of whether or not they knew it was wrong. You might be able to argue that before it became a big deal that you didn't 'know' (although, /eyeroll), but now that it's been mentioned in patch notes as something they're not intending to be a feature, and it's been publicly acknowledged as an unintended exploit, going forward with it 'because you can' isn't just playing with fire, it's shoving fire straight into your mouth.
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