Samurai and Red Mage

[Dzian]

Sam could definitely use some buffs.

Any it gets I'd like to see more on the ogcd side of things. Buffs to shinten seigan and the enhanced empire. maybe guren and agatha.
Maybe tweak meditate so it grants the first 10 kenki instantly.

The problem Sam has is it's base stuff is pretty solid you can 3 sen midare all day long and do "decent" damage. The problem many have is using shintens hagakures all that stuff doesn't really step them up much.

The other problem is that many just don't use half the kit. The amount of times I see them just standing there waiting. In Susan for example when he disappear for the big sword drop you got like 15 or 20 seconds before that comes down plenty of time to meditate 50 extra kenki. And usually depending on how quick they're smashed you can meditate again soon as the second one is smashed...

Sigma 2 is the same thing. Takes like 15 seconds for the boss to even appear. Run in get aggro and meditate. Even though can get 50 kenki before he even decides to start the fight. Yet no-one ever does it. I hardly ever see sams meditate even in the big 20 second windows.

I'd keep any buffs on the ogcd side though definitely. Help those who make better use of hagakure and the like really stand out ahead of those that dont

[Shurrikhan]

Sigma 2 is the same thing. Takes like 15 seconds for the boss to even appear. Run in get aggro and meditate. Even though can get 50 kenki before he even decides to start the fight. Yet no-one ever does it. I hardly ever see sams meditate even in the big 20 second windows.

Hmm. I've been seeing people use modified Jinpu openers when running with WARs in order to get both Higanbana and Guren up asap, or as soon as raid (de)buffs pop.

I'd keep any buffs on the ogcd side though definitely. Help those who make better use of hagakure and the like really stand out ahead of those that dont

I feel like this part may be more than just a SAM-specific internal balance issue. So long as Skill Speed is unavoidably increased -- and one need only fall below 2.44 to lose the best possible sync with Hagakure, taking lesser fits instead only at around 2.32, 2.18, and 2.0, if I recall correctly -- with gear, oGCDs are going to become a smaller and smaller portion of damage, and their lead decreased, as all other stats will affect all damage, but Skill Speed will only affect GCDs and oGCDs with rates directly proportionate to GCD rate (such as filler Shintens).

(Both sides of this are what I've been aiming for with the suggested changes to Speed generally and Samurai specifically.)

[Sawamura]

The other problem is that many just don't use half the kit. The amount of times I see them just standing there waiting. In Susan for example when he disappear for the big sword drop you got like 15 or 20 seconds before that comes down plenty of time to meditate 50 extra kenki. And usually depending on how quick they're smashed you can meditate again soon as the second one is smashed...

That is how you see a good samurai and a bad samurai.
A good samurai will full use all kit to increase as much dps as can. Though sadly most of samurais is........ really sad

[Ryaz]

Sam could definitely use some buffs.

The other problem is that many just don't use half the kit. The amount of times I see them just standing there waiting. In Susan for example when he disappear for the big sword drop you got like 15 or 20 seconds before that comes down plenty of time to meditate 50 extra kenki. And usually depending on how quick they're smashed you can meditate again soon as the second one is smashed...

I'd keep any buffs on the ogcd side though definitely. Help those who make better use of hagakure and the like really stand out ahead of those that dont

Agreed. I use meditate every chance I get. I love nothing more than having a group on Rofacale that kills its Archdemon quickly. I can get a full Meditate charge in while he's just running around the board. I would even squeeze it in on D4 when Exdeath would leave the arena to summon the zombie tree. Even if it's just 15 Kenki, it's something. Hardly ever see anyone else use it, though. I'm actually trying to train myself to use Yaten more to avoid AoEs and use the enhanced Enpi to minimize down time.

As for RDM, I feel they dropped the ball with Impact. It should have been more than just a small Jolt buff.

[WilhelmWhite]

Agreed. I use meditate every chance I get. I love nothing more than having a group on Rofacale that kills its Archdemon quickly. I can get a full Meditate charge in while he's just running around the board. I would even squeeze it in on D4 when Exdeath would leave the arena to summon the zombie tree. Even if it's just 15 Kenki, it's something. Hardly ever see anyone else use it, though. I'm actually trying to train myself to use Yaten more to avoid AoEs and use the enhanced Enpi to minimize down time.

As for RDM, I feel they dropped the ball with Impact. It should have been more than just a small Jolt buff.

I'm never confident enough to use Meditate, and I pretty much never use it in dungeons. I honestly feel like I struggle as SAM to average the same damage as other DPS roles, and it seems like Meditate detracts from my up time too much. The only time I really do use it is during trials when there are situational mechanics that allow me to meditate during party-wide DPS down time. I too am also trying to train myself to use Yaten more for AOE dodging. Even though I've gotten my SAM to 70, I still feel as if I have quite a bit to learn.