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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    your the one that seems to be ignoring things.
    We all get your "what if they just all of a sudden make the glamour dresser infinite storage and infinite plates?"
    even though that will never happen, the amoire does hold things of more value than glamour. The Ala Mhigan Earring is a godsend and i used the heck out of it for example
    Also, the armoire works with the glamour dresser 100% why fix something that isn't broken?
    and they moved towards keeping normal glamouring rather than replacing it meaning they don't want the dresser to be the sole source

    All I was ever trying to get at is, even if it is just the short term. Making the things that always should have fit in the armoire actually fit in it would make people like me use the glamour dresser right now. I'm just not going to put mog station items in the dresser and i want to use them for some of my glamours so it ruins the dressers usefulness for me

    If some day in the future they decide to make the dresser into an infnite armoire, that will change it in a fundamental way and warrant a conversation about doing away with the armoire.
    but that day isn't today

    The old system is in place because god knows how many people would have lost their absolute minds if they just took that away and MADE people deal with the limitations and issues with the new system. Look at how people are reacting to just the presence of the new system.

    Doing away with the armoire and it's item recoverability may be the last string to snip to give us further Dresser slots, the functionality to make things recoverable is very likely a reason they don't add new things to it's possible inventory often. Trimming off old systems to make new ones easier to implement is a good idea. I could be wrong, this could affect nothing. I'm not a dev.

    I already did say actually useful items like the +% items would probably be moved to the salvager or other means if my fantasy situation became a reality.

    You're well within cautious common sense not to put something you spent actual money on that is technically "irreplaceable" without spending more money in this new log since it would restrict its use.
    I'm well aware of current limitations and don't expect anyone to use it if they're not comfortable with it.
    The.. wow.. MANY posts I made were to ask one question: Would you approve if the system let you do EVERYTHING EXCEPT get the items back? If not.. WHY?


    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    What part of "I understand what you're proposing" isn't very clear? I personally get it. I personally see how the Dresser could replace the functionality.

    But I also accept that not every player is as pleased with the system, and would prefer to retain the ability to continue using the functionality they're familiar with.

    The fact is they're continuing to expand the use of the Armoire. The fact is they've stated every intention of adding more to it. The likelihood of them phasing out the Armoire seems slim, in my personal opinion. It's an option, to be sure, but not one I think they should invest in, until/unless the Dresser is more widely received.

    Your argument makes sense. I simply disagree with your conclusion.
    That's great! I'm all kinds of wrong about tons of things all the time.

    But what's your answer? Would you be ok with a system like that? No items, but the visual elements are all available? And not "what everyone would think". YOU.. why would YOU have a problem with it?
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-01-2018 at 09:28 PM.
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    Nope. Wouldn't be ok with that, because the Armoire also stores gear that is useful for leveling. The Armoire stores gear that can be useful to stick on a new retainer while they level.

    The Armoire is not just for glamour items, and so can't/shouldn't be replaced by a system designed solely for glamours.
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    I'm having the same issue with my fighter's artifact gear, none of it is even showing as a option to move into glamour chest, it's not equipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeHouse View Post
    I'm having the same issue with my fighter's artifact gear, none of it is even showing as a option to move into glamour chest, it's not equipped.
    The game could handle this information better, but.. lv50 AF? Can go in armoire. If it's augmented dyeable version, that can go in dresser. Can also infinitely repurchase lv50 and lv70 AF sets from calamity salvager so won't really need to store them anywhere.
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    I was wondering, did they state taht at some point in time youd be able to glamour whatever armor to whatever class, or will it be "Role Locked".

    Cause unless Im missing something, You cant glamour a chest piece from lets say Dark Knight, and have it on a Dragoon, or vice versa. But it appears you can glamour between teh Tanks. Which is useless IMO cause most end game gear is already wearable by most classes within that role, so its not really 'Cross Class'.
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    Is there an in-depth guide how to use the glamour dresser anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Think so or not, if you had the functionality you cared about available from the dresser, why would you ever need the item back?
    You cannot apply Glamours from the Dresser to your Retainers, can you? You can apply a Glamour to gear, then give it to them, but can you apply anything from the Dresser to them?

    I just took the time to greate the i55 crafter green gear, all 8 sets. I use the i320/i290 all-class stuff. I equip my Weaver, and apply the plate. I switch to Leatherworker, and the gear look goes back to the default.

    The only way to apply a look to your Retainers is the old way, and that means actually having the item on hand to apply it.

    And .. what makes the Dresser suck for crafters is ... though the Weaver gear is saved with that look, the moment I use another plate (say, the Leatherworker plate on my LTW) because the gear is shared, it overwrites the fact that the weaver glamour plate was used, and Weaver gear goes back to looking like the old i320/290.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    I was wondering, did they state taht at some point in time youd be able to glamour whatever armor to whatever class, or will it be "Role Locked".

    Cause unless Im missing something, You cant glamour a chest piece from lets say Dark Knight, and have it on a Dragoon, or vice versa. But it appears you can glamour between teh Tanks. Which is useless IMO cause most end game gear is already wearable by most classes within that role, so its not really 'Cross Class'.
    I don’t know if they ever said they were going to release the restrictions, but definitely not in relation to the dresser.

    Ultimately applying a glamour from a plate is the same end result as glamouring it with a prism, and the same restrictions apply. You can glamour any appearance onto your gear but it will only look that way if you can equip the glamoured item.

    If you glamour your tank gear with dark-knight-specific armour, it will still only show up when your class is set to dark knight. You’ll need a different plate for your paladin and/or warrior, and at this point, will have to manually apply the relevant plate when you switch jobs. (Or change via text input/macro - I forget the exact code.)

    It’s still not totally practical for this purpose at this point, but it does make it much more possible than just with prisms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    You cannot apply Glamours from the Dresser to your Retainers, can you? You can apply a Glamour to gear, then give it to them, but can you apply anything from the Dresser to them?

    I just took the time to greate the i55 crafter green gear, all 8 sets. I use the i320/i290 all-class stuff. I equip my Weaver, and apply the plate. I switch to Leatherworker, and the gear look goes back to the default.

    The only way to apply a look to your Retainers is the old way, and that means actually having the item on hand to apply it.

    And .. what makes the Dresser suck for crafters is ... though the Weaver gear is saved with that look, the moment I use another plate (say, the Leatherworker plate on my LTW) because the gear is shared, it overwrites the fact that the weaver glamour plate was used, and Weaver gear goes back to looking like the old i320/290.
    woah.. Hello old thread!

    No you cannot glamour directly to retainers, but I don't see the workaround as any more difficult than the old way of glamouring each piece individually. Now you can remove it all, wear it, use the plate, put it back on your retainer. There is no way to apply things directly from the dresser to ANYTHING other than plates yet, though they've said they're working on that

    Plates apply glamours permanently like the old system used to, it does not disappear if you change class. I have no idea how you're managing to remove glamours by switching class but not gear, people have actually been looking for a way to do this.

    I don't think that only sucks for crafters, that sucks for everyone that uses shared gear, but since you CAN macro a gearchange AND a plate change just create this macro:
    /gearset change 1 2

    this will change to gear set 1 and apply glamour plate 2.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-18-2018 at 04:31 PM.
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    My opinion the old way of doing glamour was better....
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