Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions

[loreleidiangelo]

that situation might do one of two things. 1) allow those who enjoy playing pure healers more recognition in groups when they perform a miracle and prevent wipes or 2) have more vitriol thrown at healers who just cant keep up with the massive amount of damage going out from the most minor of mistakes. Id like #1 to be the case but we all know #2 will be the inevitable outcome, especially from those whining "healers are too good" and demanding potency nerfs. they will be the first ones abusing the healers for sucking and running to the forums demanding that something be done about those 'healing baddies'.

I guess I just can't see this, tbh. Other MMOs have a much more natural output of damage so that as long as a healer is moderately pushing their healing buttons and using cooldowns they shouldn't run into too much difficulty in casual content. I'm a casual healer in WoW (normal mode raids at best which are challenging but still completely puggable - think EX primals just in raid form) and never feel like "healing constantly" is this taxing process that requires a huge mental overhead from me. It just requires me to focus more on my party's health bars than the boss health bar, I guess you could say.

The biggest reason healing in this game likely won't change is because fight design would have to be completely re-tooled from the ground up to make it work. It's not as simple as "nerf healing potencies", because right now virtually EVERY fight in this game is about massive burst damage followed with lull periods (usually incoming one-shot mechanics where players are not expected to take damage unless they fail the mechanic) to allow healers to get value out of the regen/oGCD aspects of their kit. Imagine something like Almagest at the ilevel most of us were when we started O4S, but imagine healing power arbitrarily cut in half - a single Almagest round with that dot would probably force layering just about every regen you have along with AOE heal spam between, and your mana would be tanked before you know it. Now if you're saying, "just halve mana costs too, np", well how does that affect periods where there's just single-target damage going out? You're suddenly keeping one person up with a lot less effort/opportunity cost, especially between two healers babysitting them. Healers would probably still be DPSing there, so you'd still keep that same DPS focus for single-target/tank healing but make AOE burst damage a lot harder to deal with for no real reason.

In other MMOs damage is a steady, constant ongoing stream with very few spikes/danger areas. Healing in, say, World of Warcraft is more about stemming a slow bleed with your resources than about efficiently powering through massive near-teamwipe damage with as few casts as possible (and DPSing in the interim). Unless that aspect of XIV healing changes, I don't think just "nerfing healers" will produce much of an effect. Even tank cooldowns are oriented around that burst-type damage - there's virtually no "low CD, medium impact" tank cooldowns that tanks are expected to rotate constantly to mitigate steady sustain damage, it's all about waiting for the boss to do his super move and rip something like Vengeance or Sentinel, then wait another minute or so before ripping something else for the next tank buster (or tag in your OT with Shirk and go full DPS mode yourself to get maximum value out of mitigation CD timers). The gauge abilities like Shelltron come close, but I find they generate too slow and bar Inner Beast don't have enough of an impact to encourage rotating them (and even then I bet more WARs use other CDs to mitigate and save Beast Gauge for Fell Cleave).

Whole fights would have to be changed from the ground up to make room for any sort of changes to healing design. With XIV's level sync enforced for pretty much every roulette you'd have to check every trial, every dungeon, every 24-man raid to make sure that nerfed healers can keep up with damage output without difficulty, and you'd have to design all future content going forward (including possibly some already partway through development) around this idea of more "heal-oriented" healers.

Would I love it? Sure. Do I see it happening ever, given how little SE seems to want to a.) disrupt the status quo, b.) invest significant resources into this game (see: housing, server limitations, etc), and c.) enforce a playstyle change that frankly would be pretty disliked by a not-insignificant portion of the healer playerbase (if healer subforums and Reddit are anything to go by)? Nope.

[MoroMurasaki]

I know you will hate me after I say this but, how do you discord? I've never used it before.

And sarcasm is my native language.

Psh, how could I hate you?

It's an app I use on my phone and tablet. PC players I play with run it directly on the computer they're using for FFXIV too and I'm not too sure about how that works. I downloaded it from the google play store, it's. A purplish icon that says "Discord - Chat for Gamers" as its title.

It's a handy tool for voice comms in game but at this point for me I mainly use it to chat with friends either in-game or from the forums (Tridus, Miste, etc.) and it works kinda like any other text-based messenger app.

You make an account and they give you that 4 digit number after your username then you can add people to your friends list with it. It's great on these forums specifically because we don't have a private message system so I have no way to say "Hey Vanille, we should go run things together because reasons!" but on discord that would be easy to arrange.

You're a smart person. If you download it my username is listed in my sig, I'd love to run some random roulettes/Sigmascape/Byakko or something with you whether you do voice on it or not. I know not everyone is super comfy with voice chat.

I'm sorry this is so wordy and off topic o.o

But yeah, join up if you get a chance!

[KokoChibata]

Unpopular opinion? Us Au Ra arent dragons(confirmed in game and out of game) or lizards. Its more likely that we are Allagan creations a hybrid of one of the enlightened races and voidsent (sourcing from the early concept art as female Au Ra are depicted as more demonic in looks much like a succubus). And before you say it yes there are voidsent with scales and horns gargoyles are covered imps have scales running along their spine succubus have hornes and the leathery patches could be “scales” of a sort cerberus has scales ect. Having scales does not mean we are lizards or dragons we are also different in the fact that we also have mammary glands (boobs) belly buttons and hair as well as regular skin which suggests mammals (pangolin ftw). So yeah most likely Allagan humaoid voidsent hybrid bc lets be honest wouldnt be the first time theyve done that kinda thing.

[loreleidiangelo]

Unpopular opinion? Us Au Ra arent dragons(confirmed in game and out of game) or lizards. Its more likely that we are Allagan creations a hybrid of one of the enlightened races and voidsent (sourcing from the early concept art as female Au Ra are depicted as more demonic in looks much like a succubus). And before you say it yes there are voidsent with scales and horns gargoyles are covered imps have scales running along their spine succubus have hornes and the leathery patches could be “scales” of a sort cerberus has scales ect. Having scales does not mean we are lizards or dragons we are also different in the fact that we also have mammary glands (boobs) belly buttons and hair as well as regular skin which suggests mammals (pangolin ftw). So yeah most likely Allagan humaoid voidsent hybrid bc lets be honest wouldnt be the first time theyve done that kinda thing.

Idk, part of me still feels like they threw out the whole "not dragons" thing at the start of HW because they were afraid of backlash wrt a new "super lore-relevant race that has a lot more interaction with the expansion than other races" or something. I feel like it's not a coincidence that the dragons Hraesvelgr and Nidhogg were black and white dragons and Au Ra could have either black or white scales, especially given the story related to Shiva and her...relationship with Hraesvelgr.

Who knows, though. Either way I feel like that was actually really wasted potential for some actual exciting and complex lore background.

[Dualblade]

Psh, how could I hate you?

It's an app I use on my phone and tablet. PC players I play with run it directly on the computer they're using for FFXIV too and I'm not too sure about how that works. I downloaded it from the google play store, it's. A purplish icon that says "Discord - Chat for Gamers" as its title.

It should work about as similar on PC as it does on your phone. Just download it, set a button for "push-to-talk" if one wishes and have it on in the background after joining whatever channel ones wishes to talk in when it comes to that part. You can also run it in a browser but you can't run it in the background with voice, though I do need to try it out on the Steam overlay to see if that works with it.

[KokoChibata]

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Sidurgu the DRK trainer says that they arent of dravian descent and the Ishgardians persecuted them because of that misconception and slaughtered them based on their physical appearance which Sidugru explains that no Au Ra are not of dravian descent.
Also consider the creation myth of the Dawn Father and Dusk Mother. If Hraesvelgr and Niddhog were the ones to make the Au Ra wouldnt it be Dawn and Dusk father? No this wouldnt make sense however Xande and The Cloud of Darkness well thats a little more fitting and fits with the titles Dawn FATHER and Dusk MOTHER as Xande is male and CoD is female. Its more then likely they had lil halfbreed babies who were then subject to experimentation.

[VanilleFang]

I'll give it a try. I've actually never done any sort of voice chat so I probably won't do any of that. XD

I'll download it and add you! Thank you!

ALSO didn't realize you were friends with two other common faces on the forums. Tridus is someone I especially find myself agreeing with often.

[SilverObi]

If Hraesvelgr and Niddhog were the ones to make the Au Ra wouldnt it be Dawn and Dusk father? No this wouldnt make sense however Xande and The Cloud of Darkness well thats a little more fitting and fits with the titles Dawn FATHER and Dusk MOTHER as Xande is male and CoD is female.

Let's not forget Tiamat was the dusk wyrm and Bahamut the dawn wyrm. It's most likely a red herring to further muddle the possible origins of the Au Ra but it's still a very good idea to pursue at the least in terms of their beliefs. And while NPCs still refute that they descend from dragons, we also haven't seen any hints of spoken races able to interbreed with voidsent and is headcanon at best. Just because people WANT to sleep with succubi, or other kinds but I won't judge, doesn't mean a viable offspring would result from what is usually a possessed dead body or manifestation of an alien being.

[loreleidiangelo]

Sidurgu the DRK trainer says that they arent of dravian descent and the Ishgardians persecuted them because of that misconception and slaughtered them based on their physical appearance which Sidugru explains that no Au Ra are not of dravian descent.

Yeah, the DRK trainer...who came out after the release of HW. I'm suggesting the possibility that Au Ra were bounced around as potential dragon descendants and that it was something that was scrapped in development, that's all. The general theme of HW and their appearance just strikes me as too much of a coincidence.

[KokoChibata]

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Yes however theres 2 things you failed to pick up on. The first I never said Xande and Cloud of Darkness mated I did say that they had offspring however this does not mean they mated as most people are aware the Allagans had access to genetic spliceing off spring in this case would mean spliceing their dna into a subject and seeing a result. The second is that the Au Ra as much as everyone wants are NOT native to dravania but are native to the far east. It is nice to see you want to stick to the dragon theory but theres really no basis for it male dragons are not larger then female dragons they do not give live birth nor do they have limbal rings around their eyes yes they both have scales but so do fish lizards pangolin (which are mammals) voidsent anata snakes etc. Where as dragons stuck to dravania/myrcedia the Allagans had an empire which trancends boarders its very likely they went to the far east and just as likely experimented there.