Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions

[MistakeNot]

I'd hate to be in a duty with you tbh. I'd rather not do a dungeon that takes an hour because the tank is pulling 1 enemy at a time. Nope. I would leave, and happily take the 30min penalty.

Hyperbole much? Dunegons don't take an hour even with minimal pulls, and most of the time it is not even possible to pull just 1 enemy at a time anyway.
Doing minimal pulls adds no more than 5-10 minutes to the run time (depending on dungeon and amount of AOE the party can bring) - so eating a 30 min penalty wouldn't save you any time.

[VanilleFang]

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I know you will hate me after I say this but, how do you discord? I've never used it before.

And sarcasm is my native language.

[-Lilia-]

You look fabulous in that!

That's really sweet! Haha >//< tysm!! <3

[RainDurell]

All dps bar SAM are balanced

[Minako_Nightsong]

1. Comparing systems from this game to World of Warcraft is perfectly fine since it is the competition and a game of the same genre.

2. Movement animation in this game needs vast improvement. Sometimes I can see people run in place and other times they move their feet once every 20 feet moved. I do not see this in World of Warcraft and it is an ancient game. The database defense doesn't play here.

3. Every expansion release, the previous expansion patch quest should be streamlined and trimmed of fat to better fit into a new person's story experience. Hiring one person to do this wouldn't break the bank and certain other games like...World of Warcraft can do it. There is no reason 2.x stories could not be preserved yet also get rid of that stupid bottleneck of useless quest that just gets in the way of it.

4. Add PotD traps to every dungeon. Think of the possibilities. "Hey guys watch me pull all three groups. I'm doing it I'm doing it I am so....oh crap I'm a frog!"

[NephthysVasudan]

4. Add PotD traps to every dungeon. Think of the possibilities. "Hey guys watch me pull all three groups. I'm doing it I'm doing it I am so....oh crap I'm a frog!"

*falls out of chair laughing so hard cant see straight*
*terminator 2 thumbs up*

[WilhelmWhite]

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Obviously when I said an hour, I was exaggerating, but you're completely missing the point. It's not so much the time that is wasted, it's the lack of any excitement or enjoyment.

If this makes a run boring because it becomes so easy - then people are doing things right.

Who wants to play like that? No one. I'm a healer main, and I'd rather not spend my time that way. I can spend a 30min penalty doing MUCH more interesting things. Not to mention that with tiny pulls, any AOE skills that DPS roles have are barely necessary at that point. "This is super boring, but at least I'm doing things right!" = Said no one, ever, about any video game.

What I will say, is that it's important to know if the healer is alright with large pulls, rather than just going balls to the wall pulling everything. Which is why I ask them at the start of the dungeon when I tank. If they're not, it doesn't bother me so much. But the reason it doesn't bother me when I pull small, is because I'm the one tanking it, so it doesn't seem boring. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you're a tank main? Try to consider the point of view from healer/DPS mains. When I heal, I find large pulls challenging, and it makes the dungeon worth while.

[Jijifli]

"This is super boring, but at least I'm doing things right!"

Fun fact here, I'm much more likely to notice what a person is doing horribly wrong in smaller pulls simply because there's no danger. I guess the only benefit to their, "Pull so tiny you make people fall asleep" strat is I notice just how awful someone is and can kick them before the first boss.

That's what they want right? They said if it's easy and boring people are doing it right, right? Even with two ice mage's it's still boring and easy, so ice mage is doing something right, right?

[loreleidiangelo]

I know you will hate me after I say this but, how do you discord? I've never used it before.

And sarcasm is my native language.

Not the person quoted, but I'll help ya out. You can use Discord in 1 of 2 ways, either through your Interbutts browser or by downloading the actual program (I prefer the program just so you don't have to reopen different Discord channels in browser every time you close browser/turn off computer/whatever). This is program for download BTW. To add Moro up there, after you've set up the program and whatnot, click on the three-people icon at the top and go to "add friend", and type in the ID Moro gave you up there. Discord is a VOIP program but you can use it as a chat channel too just by typing to Moro via Direct Message anytime you wanna shoot the breeze.

Hopefully that helps. If you run into any snags let me know and I'll try to troubleshoot.

[Canopia]

Healers need that potency otherwise they couldn't fix mistakes.

Some hypothetical numbers. The tank takes 10k damage per auto attack, has 50k HP. Currently one healer heals for about 10k. Let's nerf them to 7.5k. Now two DPS just ate a 24k damage hit from not dodging a mechanic. They can self heal 6.5k. lets say they suffer 15k damage total. That's 4 gcds healers would have to make up to get them back up. that means the tank will be down 10k damage if one healer still heals nonstop. And now the 40k tank buster is coming up.

You'd wind up making it so that DPS couldn't make any mistakes, or it would lead into a situation where the healer just couldn't keep up, and there'd be more deaths. Or say the tank screwed up a cooldown, and took 20k more damage, the healers can't fix that; it would eventually lead into a wipe. It's really hard to tune that without making each job self-contained and solely responsible for its own role, with no other way to compensate for it. It would also work in other ways; healers couldn;t help with DPS checks since we use more GCDs for healing, and tanks stay in tank stance more because without it they take too much damage.

that situation might do one of two things. 1) allow those who enjoy playing pure healers more recognition in groups when they perform a miracle and prevent wipes or 2) have more vitriol thrown at healers who just cant keep up with the massive amount of damage going out from the most minor of mistakes. Id like #1 to be the case but we all know #2 will be the inevitable outcome, especially from those whining "healers are too good" and demanding potency nerfs. they will be the first ones abusing the healers for sucking and running to the forums demanding that something be done about those 'healing baddies'.