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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jib View Post
    But that is the thing.. if the tool is there why dont you use it really? for me the unpredictability of getting bad players is the same, or is it not?
    Not necessarily. Raid finder allows anyone who meets the minimum ilvl, which can group with multiple i340s. While ilvl doesn't inherently determine skill, I prefer people using some assortment of 350 gear to push faster. Likewise, if I happen to stumble into a good party, we can hopefully knock out a handful of runs. With RF, I may never see those people again. On the flip side, bad players can be easily ejected. A Byakko specific example often has people wanting unique jobs to utilize the tank LB3 strat. If you get two Samurai in RF, well, you won't have the LB.

    Basically, Party Finder offers control over the party. When I may have to run the same fight upwards or exceeding 99 times. I want to maximize my odds as much as possible.
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    Jibikly Pureheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Not necessarily. Raid finder allows anyone who meets the minimum ilvl, which can group with multiple i340s. While ilvl doesn't inherently determine skill, I prefer people using some assortment of 350 gear to push faster. Likewise, if I happen to stumble into a good party, we can hopefully knock out a handful of runs. With RF, I may never see those people again. On the flip side, bad players can be easily ejected. A Byakko specific example often has people wanting unique jobs to utilize the tank LB3 strat. If you get two Samurai in RF, well, you won't have the ... etc
    Bourne I really appreciate your input, but for me that is “thing”.. if the supposed system is not working ... because of reasons you all are saying.. then it MUST change or not? Why have a system that majority of players is not using?! .. it’s just not working at the moment.. and I think it’s important players express their reasons why .. so everyone can see
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jib View Post
    Bourne I really appreciate your input, but for me that is “thing”.. if the supposed system is not working ... because of reasons you all are saying.. then it MUST change or not? Why have a system that majority of players is not using?! .. it’s just not working at the moment.. and I think it’s important players express their reasons why .. so everyone can see
    It's obvious why it isn't working. NA/EU doesn't use it but JP does. It's been stated multiple time in this thread alone already. Our players are bad on average. JP players actually freakin try, us we whine when healers do DPS.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jib View Post
    Why have a system that majority of players is not using?! .. it’s just not working at the moment.. and I think it’s important players express their reasons why .. so everyone can see
    Because if I'm gonna run the fight, I'd like to at least know the guy who can't be bothered can't keep queuing into my party.

    You join my farm party and can't do the fight? I can remove and replace you. Do it in Raid Finder? We have to vote and I get a 4 hour lockout.

    Also since people are mentioning it... Does the punishment for double jobs happen in Raid Finder? I know it's specifically coded to not happen if you queue without a full party into duty finder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Because if I'm gonna run the fight, I'd like to at least know the guy who can't be bothered can't keep queuing into my party.

    You join my farm party and can't do the fight? I can remove and replace you. Do it in Raid Finder? We have to vote and I get a 4 hour lockout.

    Also since people are mentioning it... Does the punishment for double jobs happen in Raid Finder? I know it's specifically coded to not happen if you queue without a full party into duty finder.
    Thank you for your constructive criticism.
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