Why dont you use RAID FINDER?

[AnimaAnimus]

I stopped using both raid and duty finder for primals after Sephirot was introduced. Also when I just stopped farming primals period.
A: the whistle drop rates are so horrible I figured its a waste of time collecting them all for a mount I will use maybe a week.
B: So many pts were complete fails and would abandon after 2 wipes that it was more frustrating than not doing them at all.
I have yet to do an ex trial in SB.

You simply never know what your going to get and sometimes its better when you realize that its just not worth doing at all.

[AppleJinx]

Because this isn't the JP datacenter where people actually cares about not dragging the group down and wasting the time of everybody involved.

[Jib]

Using the Raid Finder, you have different people to compete against every time, while in Party Finder, if someone gets a drop you have one less person to lot against (unless of course they loot and scoot). Also you have instant queues each and every time it's flagged up since already in party, no waiting between each run.

Yes I get your point perfectly, if you want to FARM.. yes that makes perfect sense. But if you want just one time quick run of it.. why not use it? ..many of us play this game with restricted times, many of us are "good"players but only have 30m on a evening to play.. it would be GREAT.. to get a system where u queue and u get competent players to do a quick kill... that has worked in the past.. again my experience with Sophia, Susano and Lakshmi attest to this.. dont get what is going on with this fight at the moment

[AxlStream]

But that is the thing.. if the tool is there why dont you use it really? for me the unpredictability of getting bad players is the same, or is it not?

It isn't. After using it plenty of times, you have that list of prefered/blacklisted players that can really help you avoid traps and skilless players.

[NephthysVasudan]

But that is the thing.. if the tool is there why dont you use it really? for me the unpredictability of getting bad players is the same, or is it not?

Re-read what i said....slowly.....very....slowly......and try again.

I suspect your not quite paying attention.

And honestly..I knew about the tool long before you thought to mention it...and still found it pointless/useless. maybe it had its uses before..but party finder is far too efficient to not use it. Hell even duty finder will do the job within 15 mins or less for me.

If the majority don't use the tool...why should i switch? Answer me that. ;P

Oh and before you bring up your "Raid Completed" argument.... people get carried...all the time....doesn't mean they are qualified to do the raid.

So your argument isn't going to hold much weight.

[Settiesama]

Another reason for PF>RF, is the ability to weed out those who were carried and know nothing of the fight. If you get them in PF, get out, pick up a replacement, go straight back in. RF, queue for ages to get back in, and more likely to get another team full of them.

[Reyn]

I don't use it because... no one uses it.

I thought it was really useful for getting to know a fight before committing to a clear group. For whatever reason, I'm super intimidated to jump into a PF group without some idea of what I'm doing. Even if it's a learning party.

Once a fight is cleared though, I probably wouldn't use it either. The only reason to do it at that point is to farm, and it's far more efficient to join a farming PF where you can just bang it out.

[Jib]

blablabla.

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No need for that type of answer .. Im just asking a genuine question. If this is a system that isnt working, then SE needs to change it. Why have a system if the majority of players is not using it?
Your tone was bad, Im not daft, Im not stupid, just raising in my eyes what is a valid point. Keep your saltiness to yourself i dont need it, I do love the sea though.

Get this, Im NOT defending DF, i couldnt care less, I just want a system where i can queue with good RANDOM players to do my EX trials/savage, that is all .. if it is not working as intended then the subject needs to be raised or not? SE needs to know about it is and "try" to change it as it works as .... "intended" ...

[Jib]

You might end up with stacked jobs that kills/makes it harder to do the Tank LB3 strat which is a widely accepted strat right now on NA/EU for Byakko.

Party comp was one of the reasons barely anyone used it for Zurvan EX either. (Most popular party comp for Zurvan EX was 1 tank in NA/EU, RF forces 2)

thks that is a valid point

[NephthysVasudan]

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No need for that type of answer .. Im just asking a genuine question. If this is a system that isnt working, then SE needs to change it. Why have a system if the majority of players is not using it?
Your tone was bad, Im not daft, Im not stupid, just raising in my eyes what is a valid point. Keep your saltiness to yourself i dont need it, I do love the sea though.

Get this, Im NOT defending DF, i couldnt care less, I just want a system where i can queue with good RANDOM players to do my EX trials/savage, that is all .. if it is not working as intended then the subject needs to be raised or not? SE needs to know about it is and "try" to change it as it works as .... "intended" ...

Thanks for proving my point...and not bothering to pay attention to what was said.