I miss the old PvP.

[Divinemights]

That's why I say in 3.x the mindset to solo carry was encouraged because the majority of players are incompetent. When a class like machinist can take 2 seconds to kill someone then?????

Strategy is much more encouraged now more than ever because classes don't offer anything by themselves, only together lol

I am sorry to disappoint you but 4.2 Machinest can drop dps job in close range with merely 4 buttons: wild fire, stun gun, snipe, heated split.
I am defending 4.0 system not because I think it is good, i just like it separate PvP and PvE.
It doesn't mean I think it takes a lot skill to play
The fact is, if you got killed by a SMN, BRD, and MCH this expansion, there is nothing to be shame about, because who knows whether it is the player skill that killed you or it is the job mechanic killed you.
I dare you to play Frontline as Monk without a healer follow you.
This is the job right now requires most skill to play this expansion.