Housing Suggestions

[Almagnus1]

And when the rest aren't satisfied from this action, do they make another group of paying customers unhappy to appease them? It's not good business sense to upset your content customers to appease the angry ones, as you'll just end up with a larger group of angry customers.

There is no numerical argument you make where SE isn't coming out ahead because the number of players SE pleases outweighs the number of players they make mad.

I feel like "the rest" in this instance is really just this small vocal minority here on the forums; the reaction to the current housing situation almost everywhere else is just overwhelmingly positive. It smacks of "I want a large and I want less competition, so screw the other guys".

Actually no, most have just given up because there's a disproportionate number of slum lords tying up a housing lots in the older sections that needs to be addressed.

Otherwise we are going to continue to see more videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znbBHGzjSB0 and continue to see these because the entire system doesn't have sane restrictions in place.

[StouterTaru]

There is no numerical argument you make where SE isn't coming out ahead because the number of players SE pleases outweighs the number of players they make mad.

It's not numerical, it's psychological. Rewarding anger doesn't make it go away, it amplifies it.

[Almagnus1]

It's not numerical, it's psychological. Rewarding anger doesn't make it go away, it amplifies it.

Quite frankly, the greedy should get screwed in this situation because most of the housing mess is because of their actions. Getting evicted from their extra houses is just punishment.

[MizArai]

SE should have never allowed large houses to be used as personal houses to begin with. That was a mistake, SE should evict the players that are using the large houses as personal houses.

Likewise, there should be enough medium and large houses so the FCs aren't using the small houses - as those houses should be exclusively for players.

Quite frankly, the greedy should get screwed in this situation because most of the housing mess is because of their actions. Getting evicted from their extra houses is just punishment.

So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.

[Almagnus1]

So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.

Ok, you fail at reading comprehension, as the medium personal houses should be left alone...

But other than that, given enough time, yes SE should enforce restrictions on who gets what. Throw in more wards (like twice as many as we have now), remove the hoarders (cause they're part of the problem), and then there should be enough supply for everyone to at least get the house size they want.

[Mahrze]

There is no numerical argument you make where SE isn't coming out ahead because the number of players SE pleases outweighs the number of players they make mad.

By pleasing the majority the following part is moot

Actually no, most have just given up because there's a disproportionate number of slum lords tying up a housing lots in the older sections that needs to be addressed. Otherwise we are going to continue to see more videos like this and continue to see these because the entire system doesn't have sane restrictions in place.

The "slum lords" can only reach so far. And the example video is no different than the myriad of posts made on day zero. There will always be dissatisfied people. smh

[Sothis]

Actually no, most have just given up because there's a disproportionate number of slum lords tying up a housing lots in the older sections that needs to be addressed.

It is absolutely about everyone wanting a large and coming up with reasons to give themselves an advantage over the next guy for them.

I just took a look around Shirogane on Hyperion; of the larges, 66 are FC houses and 42 are personal houses, and there's currently 163 small lots open for purchase. That's just Shirogane, which is the most popular. There's a huge amount of houses available. There is zero reason to be yelling for SE to literally take people's houses away except that you want the medium/large someone else has. It's not about a handful of situations where a person or FC has a bunch of houses owned, it's about very specific lots that people feel they are more entitled to than someone else.

[Almagnus1]

It is absolutely about everyone wanting a large and coming up with reasons to give themselves an advantage over the next guy for them.

I just took a look around Shirogane on Hyperion; of the larges, 66 are FC houses and 42 are personal houses, and there's currently 163 small lots open for purchase. That's just Shirogane, which is the most popular. There's a huge amount of houses available. There is zero reason to be yelling for SE to literally take people's houses away except that you want the medium/large someone else has. It's not about a handful of situations where a person or FC has a bunch of houses owned, it's about very specific lots that people feel they are more entitled to than someone else.

SE should have never allowed large houses to be used as personal houses to begin with. That was a mistake, SE should evict the players that are using the large houses as personal houses.

Likewise, there should be enough medium and large houses so the FCs aren't using the small houses - as those houses should be exclusively for players.

[Sothis]

SE should have never allowed large houses to be used as personal houses to begin with. That was a mistake, SE should evict the players that are using the large houses as personal houses.

But.. why? Other than the gardens, which I do agree should be 3 plots for everyone, there is no major technical difference between a small and a large for a FC. Beyond that point, there is literally no reason for a FC to have priority on larges beyond some vague reasoning of "space", in which case you'll need to start policing FCs based on numbers of players who actively use the house - good luck with that one. And now with the option to teleport to friends houses, personal homes can be just as much of a gathering spot. So it comes full circle; there's no argument beyond "I want a large and I deserve it more than that guy because of feelings".

[Almagnus1]

But.. why? Other than the gardens, which I do agree should be 3 plots for everyone, there is no major technical difference between a small and a large for a FC.

The housing system was originally intended for FCs, and following that original intention, the largest plots of land should be FCs. That's my opinion and no amount of QQ from you (or the rest of the whiners here) is going to change it.

Beyond that point, there is literally no reason for a FC to have priority on larges beyond some vague reasoning of "space", in which case you'll need to start policing FCs based on numbers of players who actively use the house - good luck with that one.

You track it by what owns it (FC or personal), and have automated server scripts that do the pruning/kicking - all completely impartial and will guarantee the rules will be enforced fairly for all.