Housing Suggestions

[Mahrze]

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This would solve nothing.

Housing is limited by choice and they haven't expressed any intention to invest in more server capacity. This is obvious on other server issues that have been consistent since SB launched.

Retroactively harming players for making questionable use of the system is inherently wrong and is a far shot from a solution.

Housing for players was made as a "gil sink" and for the most part it works in that intent. The fact that these can't be extended to additional gil sinks like: lot size (without the need to relocate), modular building design and upgrades to rooms, gardens and workshops is where the issue is really at.

The only way these have ever been a "gil sink" in their shallow depth is by multiple house purchases because for some crafters, its not that difficult.

[Penthea]

Restrict Large houses to FC only.

Why? The advantages to having a large are not amazing. You get one extra garden patch (many players couldn't give a hoot about that) and you can have all the crafting stations (which only work to lvl 50 so they don't get used much now). Since the vendor cap has increased the need for having a large has dropped a lot. If having a large somehow affected fc rooms or the workshop it would mean something, but they don't.

Not all fcs want a mansion and some solo players do. Don't assume to speak for other fcs by saying mansions should only be reserved for them.

Restrict housing NPCs to FC only.

What does this achieve? How does this make anything better for anyone?

Increase garden spaces on all houses to the large house capacity.

If you mean the gardening patches, then I agree.

Add five wards to all neighborhoods with every major patch (4.3, 4.4, 5.0) until the issue is resolved.

Housing isn't the only major content in the game. Doing this would make other content suffer.

Forcibly release houses are are in violation to the ownership terms defined in 4.2 and provide the owners at least a month of warning prior to the patch this goes live to make arrangements so the automated rules don't do it for them.

Players who owned several houses before 4.2 aren't violating anything. SE have said this themselves. Likely they will take away excess housing when all characters on the same server can have access to the same private home.

[Almagnus1]

Players who owned several houses before 4.2 aren't violating anything. SE have said this themselves. Likely they will take away excess housing when all characters on the same server can have access to the same private home.

Then give a good explanation why they should be allowed to be an exception to the same rules everyone else has to follow.

There should be no exceptions, and SE should just force the issue and enforce their housing rules on everyone. No one player should be able to control more than two houses - that's exactly what they buy guidelines suggest, and that's exactly what SE should enforce.

[Penthea]

Then give a good explanation why they should be allowed to be an exception to the same rules everyone else has to follow.

I didn't say I disagree with you. I merely informed you of SE's stance on it. They have explicitly said that the 4.2 restrictions won't affect anyone who bought their houses before 4.2. I agree these people should be forced to let go of their excess housing, but that would mean making characters suddenly become homeless. It would make sense for them to do this when all characters have access to the same private home.

And while we're on about explanations, please explain the advantage of taking housing npcs away from private homes. Out of your entire list this one is astonishingly illogical and useless from what I can see.

[MizArai]

There should be no exceptions

You're right about that one little part; there should be no exceptions. Every character that has been leveled and meets the requirements should be able to purchase their own home. Separate characters on an account are treated as their own individual beings/ accounts/ whatever you want to call it. Heck, even bonus codes for items bought on the SE store are starting to say "This item will be distributed to a single character of your choice on a selected service account." If that's not treating each character separately, I don't know what is. Your multiple characters cannot even share a house (unless you were lucky enough to take advantage of a glitch some time ago in game where you got to add them to your friends list), so why shouldn't one player be able to "control more than two houses"? The problem here is a bad system that they're slowing working on, not the players with more than 1 house.

[lokowoko]

basically they indirectly rewarded those who used the loophole by giving them first pick on wards, if anything using the loophole deserves punishment, becuase there is no excuse that could justify owning more than one house+ fc house

[MizArai]

basically they indirectly rewarded those who used the loophole by giving them first pick on wards, if anything using the loophole deserves punishment, becuase there is no excuse that could justify owning more than one house+ fc house

Anyone that already owned a house could relocate. Owning more than 1 house didn't give anyone any kind of magical privilege that was above any other home owner here. And I hardly call being grandfathered in using a loophole.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

Because you can’t punish people for things that weren’t against the rules when they did them. Anytime you hear the term grandfathered in, someone is getting something or having different rules applied to them than someone else.

[Almagnus1]

Because you can’t punish people for things that weren’t against the rules when they did them. Anytime you hear the term grandfathered in, someone is getting something or having different rules applied to them than someone else.

And SE has changed the rules, and they must be brought into compliance with the newer rules because they'er still selfishly overconsuming resources in a resource deprived system.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

And SE has changed the rules, and they must be brought into compliance with the newer rules because they'er still selfishly overconsuming resources in a resource deprived system.

The picture I saw of one FC owning almost an entire ward sickened me as much as the next person, but they can't do this. Where I live the city passes new ordinances all the time. How you have to build your house, what kind of fencing you can have, etc. But if you built your house one way, or spent money on a certain type of fence, they can't make you take it down, you're grandfathered in. New homes, or homes getting new permits to make renovations have to follow the new rules.

Players spent time and gil buying houses, furnishing them, etc. I doubt SE could even legally do this, and if they did I honestly wouldn't be shocked if players got together and sued them. They'd have no grounds as to why they took things from paying customers who hadn't violated any rules.