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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    And because of said discretion is where we're stuck in a limbo, but meh. Housing is just another thing they need to fix from the ground up.
    Or SE needs to grow some balls and make a few unhappy to satisfy the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Or SE needs to grow some balls and make a few unhappy to satisfy the rest.
    And when the rest aren't satisfied from this action, do they make another group of paying customers unhappy to appease them? It's not good business sense to upset your content customers to appease the angry ones, as you'll just end up with a larger group of angry customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Or SE needs to grow some balls and make a few unhappy to satisfy the rest.
    I really wonder at times how people can make these blanket statements and be completely blind to how the housing issue is well beyond SE playing house and punishing kids for being bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Or SE needs to grow some balls and make a few unhappy to satisfy the rest.
    I feel like "the rest" in this instance is really just this small vocal minority here on the forums; the reaction to the current housing situation almost everywhere else is just overwhelmingly positive. It smacks of "I want a large and I want less competition, so screw the other guys".
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    And when the rest aren't satisfied from this action, do they make another group of paying customers unhappy to appease them? It's not good business sense to upset your content customers to appease the angry ones, as you'll just end up with a larger group of angry customers.
    There is no numerical argument you make where SE isn't coming out ahead because the number of players SE pleases outweighs the number of players they make mad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sothis View Post
    I feel like "the rest" in this instance is really just this small vocal minority here on the forums; the reaction to the current housing situation almost everywhere else is just overwhelmingly positive. It smacks of "I want a large and I want less competition, so screw the other guys".
    Actually no, most have just given up because there's a disproportionate number of slum lords tying up a housing lots in the older sections that needs to be addressed.

    Otherwise we are going to continue to see more videos like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znbBHGzjSB0 and continue to see these because the entire system doesn't have sane restrictions in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There is no numerical argument you make where SE isn't coming out ahead because the number of players SE pleases outweighs the number of players they make mad.
    It's not numerical, it's psychological. Rewarding anger doesn't make it go away, it amplifies it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    It's not numerical, it's psychological. Rewarding anger doesn't make it go away, it amplifies it.
    Quite frankly, the greedy should get screwed in this situation because most of the housing mess is because of their actions. Getting evicted from their extra houses is just punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    SE should have never allowed large houses to be used as personal houses to begin with. That was a mistake, SE should evict the players that are using the large houses as personal houses.

    Likewise, there should be enough medium and large houses so the FCs aren't using the small houses - as those houses should be exclusively for players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Quite frankly, the greedy should get screwed in this situation because most of the housing mess is because of their actions. Getting evicted from their extra houses is just punishment.
    So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizArai View Post
    So, anyone with a personal large or medium should get evicted, anyone with more than one house should get evicted, and FCs with small houses should be evicted and forced to buy mediums or larges. Why not just evict everyone and completely be rid of the hassle of the housing system? I mean, that's basically what you seem to want to do anyway.
    Ok, you fail at reading comprehension, as the medium personal houses should be left alone...

    But other than that, given enough time, yes SE should enforce restrictions on who gets what. Throw in more wards (like twice as many as we have now), remove the hoarders (cause they're part of the problem), and then there should be enough supply for everyone to at least get the house size they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    There is no numerical argument you make where SE isn't coming out ahead because the number of players SE pleases outweighs the number of players they make mad.
    By pleasing the majority the following part is moot

    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Actually no, most have just given up because there's a disproportionate number of slum lords tying up a housing lots in the older sections that needs to be addressed. Otherwise we are going to continue to see more videos like this and continue to see these because the entire system doesn't have sane restrictions in place.
    The "slum lords" can only reach so far. And the example video is no different than the myriad of posts made on day zero. There will always be dissatisfied people. smh
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    If you say so.

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