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  1. #31
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LachleinStratos View Post
    All i am asking is a constructive feedback on these suggestions like how Connor puts it instead of "learn to play your class" or "When the same person makes both these ridiculous suggestions and the SCH ridiculous suggestions, it's hard not to wonder if they were beaten up by a posse of White Mages". Are you telling all the people who put down suggestions to get good?
    No, I'm telling you to maybe learn what skills do before you propose changes. A 5% passive damage buff, up all the time, on the entire party is completely absurd (as was making Whispering Dawn active almost constantly, although I suspect Selene would be a lot more popular in this version). Making Synastry permanent (from the other thread) is completely absurd. If your goal is to obliterate any semblance of balance among healers and bring us back to "every group is SCH/AST", those changes are how you'd do it.

    What problem are you trying to solve here?
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  2. #32
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    HPDelron's Avatar
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    Duran Felden
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I don't think we need any changes like these. The SCH toolkit is very robust, with almost every part of it having a use. Our strengths are very strong, and our weakness help define our niche and give the class depth.

    I think at this point in time all that's would be helpful is a pass at Selene to make her useful outside of gimmicky opener-boosting. However since you could mostly delete Summon 2 and still have a functional class it's a very minor gripe.

    Healers in general are solid and well-balanced across the board and there is no sense in fixing what isn't broken.
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  3. #33
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by LachleinStratos View Post
    Could you explain your reasoning it would be great for me to better understand. Thanks
    You want SCH to increase the speed of their party by 5% just by virtue of them having Selene out. So any team that has a SCH would have 5% more speed... for free...

    And that's not even taking into consideration that Selene would further grant more DPS by your suggested Silent Dusk change.

    Who would even use Eos with your changes. Your Whispering Dawn change is ridiculous too, but more DPS FOR FREE would trump anything Eos could bring.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 02-10-2018 at 05:53 PM.

  4. #34
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    LachleinStratos's Avatar
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    Asuran Zala
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    Atomos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    No, I'm telling you to maybe learn what skills do before you propose changes. A 5% passive damage buff, up all the time, on the entire party is completely absurd (as was making Whispering Dawn active almost constantly, although I suspect Selene would be a lot more popular in this version). Making Synastry permanent (from the other thread) is completely absurd. If your goal is to obliterate any semblance of balance among healers and bring us back to "every group is SCH/AST", those changes are how you'd do it.

    What problem are you trying to solve here?
    Hmm wouldnt this version make Selene more viable in comparison to eos? Like i never had a reason to use selene so now more reason use selene depending on if i want that 5% boost or eos with whispering dawn.

    I agree with you the whispering dawn suggestion is not a good idea since eos doesnt need any changes.
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  5. #35
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    Asuran Zala
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    You want to a SCH to increase the speed of their party by 5% just by virtue of them having Selene out. So any team that has a SCH would have 5% more speed... for free...

    And that's not even taking into consideration that Selene would further grant more DPS by your suggested Silent Dusk change.

    Who would even use Eos with your changes. Your Whispering Dawn change is ridiculous too, but more DPS FOR FREE would trump anything Eos could bring.
    I guess i have more reason to use selene now by LOSING ALL healing and healing buffs such as whispering dawn , fey covenant and fey illumination TRADING them for damage?

    If i needed more healing il keep eos and if not selene vice versa.
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  6. #36
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    Asuran Zala
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Who would even use Eos with your changes. Your Whispering Dawn change is ridiculous too, but more DPS FOR FREE would trump anything Eos could bring.
    At the moment i think selene is going through this phase? Who would even use her now anyway.

    I agree so forget whispering dawn change only suggest it to try keeping eos on par with the selene suggestions.

    How do we give selene more love in this case?
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  7. #37
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    Waemliht's Avatar
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    Corpse Flower
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    Zalera
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Selene only has one bad skill (the silence) so I don't really see the need to change much about her. There are points where you can just switch for fey wind for free and the and the esuna saves you from taking it yourself (o5s but you can heal through without esuna anyway) or both healers (the one time doom in o4n). It's situational but that's true about alot of sch.
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  8. #38
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    Titania Yaerem
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    When you make 2 stupid posts about SCH and AST to make them ridiculously OP, I just assume that you're trolling now.
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  9. #39
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    Miscreant's Avatar
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    Character
    Claire Delune
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    1. Enter The Dragon
    Eos/Selene summons Bahmut Prime and casts an Akh Morn for every 10 Aether Gauge, potency starts at 1,000 and decreases by 100 potency after each Akh Mourn. (Akh Mourns will place a 10s vulnerability debuff on the target that can be refreshed each time an Aetherflow stack is consumed)
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    Last edited by Miscreant; 02-11-2018 at 04:56 AM.

  10. #40
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    Character
    Kupo Nut
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 25
    Selene:
    Embrace II:
    Cure Potency: 450.

    Silent Dusk:
    AoE 3y Silence, Duration: 3s, Recast: 30s

    Fey Caress:
    Recast: 30s
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