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    Nivarea's Avatar
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    C'lhen Madder
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Okay, that's straight up absurd. XD

    I was on O6 normal mode, with a bunch of people for which it was their first time. Of course, it had gone south. At one point, my co-tank was dead, both healers two, and all the hope for a recovery was on me to stay alive without healers, and gain time for the Red Mage, which was also alive, to raise one of the healers. The problem, of course, was that they pretty much died without succeeding at healing every time they were raised. I've IR Innerbeast, use Equilibrium, all my CDs and everything I could to stay alive, with some heals from the Red Mage I believe, but he was low mana coz of the raises he tried to do. I've succed to survive something like one or so minute without healers. That's... absurd. The self-heal potential is insane. I've verified, as I had my ACT open, I've healed myself for 500 000K HP during the fight.
    My efforts weren't in vain, the boss died... But with 13:40mn of fight. =B
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    Blue Bird
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nivarea View Post
    I've succed to survive something like one or so minute without healers. That's... absurd. The self-heal potential is insane. I've verified, as I had my ACT open, I've healed myself for 500 000K HP during the fight.
    So uh... what you're saying is that now, Warriors can stay alive indefinitely, pretty much like how Paladins have been able to ever since Stormblood came out. You're right, that IS absurd! Only Paladins should be able to do it!
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    Warden Azem
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    So uh... what you're saying is that now, Warriors can stay alive indefinitely, pretty much like how Paladins have been able to ever since Stormblood came out. You're right, that IS absurd! Only Paladins should be able to do it!
    Having moments where you survive for long periods of time happened before as well, the inner release change just makes it slightly easier if you have it up because you have 10 seconds worth of being able to use the ability meant for survival (instead of using it for just damage) So really this is not so absurd. I've had plenty moments on all three tanks where the stars aligned just right to save the group. Tanks aren't THAT squishy that they can't even survive 10 seconds without a healer, and they can handily prolong the period as long as they use mitigation and all abilities possible in that dire moment.

    So yeah not that absurd, especially like you said the paladin can self-heal for grand amounts and even be invincible for a short time
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Having moments where you survive for long periods of time happened before as well, the inner release change just makes it slightly easier if you have it up because you have 10 seconds worth of being able to use the ability meant for survival (instead of using it for just damage) So really this is not so absurd. I've had plenty moments on all three tanks where the stars aligned just right to save the group. Tanks aren't THAT squishy that they can't even survive 10 seconds without a healer, and they can handily prolong the period as long as they use mitigation and all abilities possible in that dire moment.

    So yeah not that absurd, especially like you said the paladin can self-heal for grand amounts and even be invincible for a short time
    PLD and WAR can. DRK can't sustain for as long however.
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    Warden Azem
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    PLD and WAR can. DRK can't sustain for as long however.
    Not for as long no, but i've played DRK this expansion too and they can. It's just more difficult for them due to the obviously lacking abilities that SE has yet still to adress. DRK has no real strength to draw upon, and self-healing especially is pretty trash for them compared to the other two. Even its AOE healing is not that special anymore considering the warrior can AOE heal more easily now anyway with the new Inner Release and using Steel Cyclone
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