So glamour plates are dumber than anticipated...

[Krotoan]

That doesn't work if you want to change up your retainer later. I change my retainers gear to match the theme of my yard. I just wish I knew whey they created such a convoluted system.

You can always edit a plate and repeat the process. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work again.

[heynowjose]

Question I'm a little confused about.

If say I put a top in can I then glamour just the top to a piece I'm wearing or is the only way to use that top for a glamour to make an entire plate?

[illgot]

You can always edit a plate and repeat the process. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work again.

plates don't work on retainers. Right now only actual gear works on retainers, so if you use something in your dresser you can't use it on your retainer.

[Krotoan]

Question I'm a little confused about.

If say I put a top in can I then glamour just the top to a piece I'm wearing or is the only way to use that top for a glamour to make an entire plate?

You cannot directly glamour something using an item in the dresser. You have to apply it to a plate first. Currently I have one plate reserved for this need, changing things out as I go.

That is not convenient though, remember they titled the one thing "glams made easy" that isn't easy and wasting more time then the old system.
You called the old system more efficient, of course no one is going to praise SE for this mess. I did ot say I had to go to the inn to use plates, I said I have to go to the inn to put items in it, and it is a pain when you are limited with how many windows you can pull up. You can't retainer > dresser, you can't chobobo bag > dresser, you can't use dyes from the bag, you cant glam from items in the bag, it is an extremely limited mess and you are shocked so many are unhappy with this?

I find this system far easier to use than the old system. I build my look, I make a plate, I apply my plate. If any item in my gear gets upgraded, I can simply apply the plate again to restore my look.

I'm praising SE for this "mess". It works great. The only real limitations it has right now are space, and Squadron glamours. Everything else is fine. I detailed my complaints with it earlier, but they're mostly about things that have been promised to be expanded later (yes I understand SE has failed promises before... I got it I got it.)

No you cant directly glamour a retainer from the dresser, but you can make a plate, put on the gear and glamour it then put it on your retainer. This is actually faster than the old way of taking the gear off the retainer and glamouring each piece individually with 1-5 different prisms.

Don't put your dyes in the chocobo bag. Don't put things you want to use in the field in the chocobo bag. Put stuff you want to hold but don't have an immediate use for in your chocobo bag and things you need constantly in your personal inventory. Why is that so weirdly complicated for you? Is it such a huge hassle to click 2 times to move something from the chocobo bag to your inventory? Are you dyeing things every 10 minutes?

plates don't work on retainers. Right now only actual gear works on retainers, so if you use something in your dresser you can't use it on your retainer.

I will say this for the 3rd time.. in the same thread
Everything your retainer wears you can wear. This is a fact.
Create the look you want for your retainer in the dresser on a plate.
Take EVERYTHING off your retainer.
Equip it all on YOUR character.
Apply the plate to YOUR character.
now everything you were wearing has the appearance glamoured to it that you wanted on your retainer.
now take everything off your character and put the gear BACK on the retainer and it will have that appearance still.


Am I saying it weird? Why is this so hard to understand?

[Vstarstruck]

I'm pretty sure you can't do that.

Everything I've paid money for wouldn't show up as an option for it.

You CAN put it in the armoire and place it onto gear through the plate system by selecting that option. That way it stays outta the dresser and you can take it out ...

the items dont go in the armoire

[Lyraele]

Having trouble following what it actually does from the thread here. And two posts directly contradict what happens if there's an empty spot on a glamour plate. What happens? Does it wipe the glamour on the corresponding gear spot? Or does it ignore spots you didn't fill in to the plate? For me, I have outfits per role that only differ by weapons. Will this new system let me put (for instance) all of my tank gear on a plate and things look right as I swap from tank to tank? How about if I swap from a tank to say Dragoon? Very confused...

[alimdia]

The only way this system can be salvaged for people who play more than one job is: Make as many plates as there are classes/jobs, allow people to store plate number in a gearset, increase dresser capacity at least tenfold, and maybe this will get closer to the glamour log people were actually asking for.

Having trouble following what it actually does from the thread here. And two posts directly contradict what happens if there's an empty spot on a glamour plate. What happens? Does it wipe the glamour on the corresponding gear spot? Or does it ignore spots you didn't fill in to the plate? For me, I have outfits per role that only differ by weapons. Will this new system let me put (for instance) all of my tank gear on a plate and things look right as I swap from tank to tank? How about if I swap from a tank to say Dragoon? Very confused...

It ignores the spot.

The best way to understand this system is, imagine if you could have a macro that says

/castglamour "tamamo headband"
/castglamour "skallic coat of healing"

This macro would use the old system to cast glamour on those two slots. That's all the new system does, except it doesn't consume prisms. Since it uses the old system the changes apply to the gear itself, not to the job, so if you did this on ast the changes will show on sch and whm, you would have to create a new macro (plate) to /castglamour anything you want for scholar.

But here's the trick: you can only create/modify those macros in an inn room, and the macro fails if you try to use it outside main cities or residential areas, OR you can't equip anything listed in the macro, so if you're out in open world and switch between ast and sch you can't even use your glamour switch macro.

[Nihility]

I'm pretty sure you can't do that.

Everything I've paid money for wouldn't show up as an option for it.

You CAN put it in the armoire and place it onto gear through the plate system by selecting that option. That way it stays outta the dresser and you can take it out ...

How are you putting mog station stuff in the armoire?

[illgot]

I will say this for the 3rd time.. in the same thread
Everything your retainer wears you can wear. This is a fact.
Create the look you want for your retainer in the dresser on a plate.
Take EVERYTHING off your retainer.
Equip it all on YOUR character.
Apply the plate to YOUR character.
now everything you were wearing has the appearance glamoured to it that you wanted on your retainer.
now take everything off your character and put the gear BACK on the retainer and it will have that appearance still.


Am I saying it weird? Why is this so hard to understand?

makes sense and I'll have to try this, but damn this system is convoluted.

[Krotoan]

Having trouble following what it actually does from the thread here. And two posts directly contradict what happens if there's an empty spot on a glamour plate. What happens? Does it wipe the glamour on the corresponding gear spot? Or does it ignore spots you didn't fill in to the plate? For me, I have outfits per role that only differ by weapons. Will this new system let me put (for instance) all of my tank gear on a plate and things look right as I swap from tank to tank? How about if I swap from a tank to say Dragoon? Very confused...

Blank spaces do nothing. If you leave a blank space it doesn't apply anything nor remove anything from gear in that slot. try this test. Super easy:
Make a plate with something you have in your armoire and nothing else. EG: the halloween outfit we just got.

Apply that plate to something you dont care about. A job you dont level or some green dungeon gear. Then try to apply a blank plate to the same thing. Nothing will happen. Nothing will be removed.

I've already applied a plate with gear but no weapon glamour in it to my SAM who is holding an Ice glamoured katana. The glamour on my weapon is still there.

IF there is a glamour in the slot however it WILL overwrite anything you have in that slot, so be careful if you've used expensive dyes on something because it will be overwritten with the plate's glamour (if there is one in the slot).

makes sense and I'll have to try this, but damn this system is convoluted.

I don't find it so.. there is a lot of setup though. Once you have your plates set it's very minor.
Hopefully they follow through on the plate to retainer and squadron member promise.