So glamour plates are dumber than anticipated...

[Panda-s1]

also needing to go to the inn and not even be able go to your house???

I hate needing to go to the inn for this, i cant cast glams the old way since we only got 10 plates as I work on things...

you don't have to go to an inn to use glamour plates, you just need to go there to add stuff to your armoire. also the old glamour system is still in place (and actually more efficient, is no one gonna praise SE for further simplifying glamour prisms?)

So, I sorta get the hesitancy on the whole "destroys your items" deal. Don't get me wrong, I hesitated putting some stuff in. And some of you glamour pros maybe have better reasonings for it, maybe I haven't fully explored this yet.
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yeah, it kinda beats having to keep making prisms over and over again. that being said I don't feel like using it too often, but for people who prefer using consistent outfits this is actually a pretty good system.

[illgot]

But, honestly, what are you losing by destroying an item you will only ever use for glamour? It stays in the dresser (unless you perma-remove and destroy it), to my knowledge, you can still apply dyes (right? surely it still works). Has anyone tested whether you can use plates to have the same item dyed different ways for different plates?

Right now the only thing you are losing is the ability to put it on your retainer and Adventure Squad members. Retainer is the largest concern of the two for me since I set them up around my house to make it look busy outside.

Excluding the destruction of items that your retainers and AS members can use, it's just a horrible system. It's overly complex and doesn't actually do what we want.

[Krotoan]

So, I sorta get the hesitancy on the whole "destroys your items" deal. Don't get me wrong, I hesitated putting some stuff in. And some of you glamour pros maybe have better reasonings for it, maybe I haven't fully explored this yet.
But, honestly, what are you losing by destroying an item you will only ever use for glamour? It stays in the dresser (unless you perma-remove and destroy it), to my knowledge, you can still apply dyes (right? surely it still works). Has anyone tested whether you can use plates to have the same item dyed different ways for different plates?
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This system solves pretty much every one of my problems. I can make my looks and redo them whenever I upgrade and spend NO additional catalysts. It removes the items I use solely for glamour from my usable inventory and frees up slots for mats, items and leveling gear.
I've messed with the dyes and yes, you can dye the item IN the dresser inventory or in the plate itself.. or even AFTER you've used the plate if you're odd like that.

yeah I can see more spaces being nice, but right now I've glamoured everything I was holding for its appearance and used all of 130 slots. A lot of these items I glamoured are purchasable off the calamity salvager and if i need the space it's super easy to "destroy" them from the dresser and retrieve them later for a minimal gil investment.

Right now the only thing you are losing is the ability to put it on your retainer and Adventure Squad members. Retainer is the largest concern of the two for me since I set them up around my house to make it look busy outside.

There is a workaround for this.
Make a plate with what you want to glamour your retainer with. Remove the armor from your retainer and wear it yourself.. apply the plate.. put the gear back on your retainer. Voila.

or say you want to use the same armor for both and just glamour the weapons.
It appears the blank slot in the glamor plate works by stripping the glamor off whatever was there so screwed again

no it doesn't. A blank slot applies no glamour. My glamoured samurai weapon stayed an ice katana even with a blank space.

and stuff like armoire gear getting destroyed permanently just feels bad, that gear already has a home =(

Armoire gear is accessible directly through the dresser with no modification..


I don't think you actually used the system.

[Nihility]

i messed around a bit with some cheap vendor stuff.

it does have some serious limitations that make me hesitant to use it with any gear i really value.
Like the 10 plate thing didn't seem bad at all until i saw how it functions.

Like say you use 2 different tanks.
you decide you'll use normal glamour prisms for one and a plate for the other.
well, tough luck. Whenever you switch to the plate one it overwrites all your standard glamours permanently

or say you want to use the same armor for both and just glamour the weapons.
It appears the blank slot in the glamor plate works by stripping the glamor off whatever was there so screwed again

on the plus side since it overwrites glamours permanently you can do your retainers just by putting the gear on yourself and using a plate

and stuff like armoire gear getting destroyed permanently just feels bad, that gear already has a home =(

if the thing had like 1000+ slots and 30+ plates i would be more comfortable with it i think but even still the gone forever thing bothers me

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

All they would really need to do to fix this is make it a toggle like on neverwinter. You can either view the plate or your original gearset with its original glams. Then add a check box or toggle for whether the selected plate is for the current job, role, or all. Done. Make this happen, SE.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Because it would look really bad in my opinion, for example, to see a tank doing his job while wearing a healer's set!...

Class restrictions on glamours are fine by me and I hope SE never changes that!...

Because it looks any less silly when a tank wears a bikini?



Truly am I ready for battle!

Outside Artifact gear and the occasional few special bits, I really don't see the point of locking gear when you can glamour the above.

[Vstarstruck]

There is a workaround for this.
Make a plate with what you want to glamour your retainer with. Remove the armor from your retainer and wear it yourself.. apply the plate.. put the gear back on your retainer. Voila.

That is not convenient though, remember they titled the one thing "glams made easy" that isn't easy and wasting more time then the old system.

you don't have to go to an inn to use glamour plates, you just need to go there to add stuff to your armoire. also the old glamour system is still in place (and actually more efficient, is no one gonna praise SE for further simplifying glamour prisms?)

You called the old system more efficient, of course no one is going to praise SE for this mess. I did ot say I had to go to the inn to use plates, I said I have to go to the inn to put items in it, and it is a pain when you are limited with how many windows you can pull up. You can't retainer > dresser, you can't chobobo bag > dresser, you can't use dyes from the bag, you cant glam from items in the bag, it is an extremely limited mess and you are shocked so many are unhappy with this?

[Nihility]

All they would really need to do to fix this is make it a toggle like on neverwinter. You can either view the plate or your original gearset with its original glams. Then add a check box or toggle for whether the selected plate is for the current job, role, or all. Done. Make this happen, SE.

unfortunately it works by applying regular old glamours so they would have to do a lot of work to make it like that

[reivaxe]

Yep, definitely not putting my $18.00 carbuncle ensemble into the dresser.

I'm pretty sure you can't do that.

Everything I've paid money for wouldn't show up as an option for it.

You CAN put it in the armoire and place it onto gear through the plate system by selecting that option. That way it stays outta the dresser and you can take it out ...

[illgot]

There is a workaround for this. Make a plate with what you want to glamour your retainer with. Remove the armor from your retainer and wear it yourself.. apply the plate.. put the gear back on your retainer. Voila.

That doesn't work if you want to change up your retainer later. I change my retainers gear to match the theme of my yard. I just wish I knew whey they created such a convoluted system.