So glamour plates are dumber than anticipated...

[Nihility]

All they would really need to do to fix this is make it a toggle like on neverwinter. You can either view the plate or your original gearset with its original glams. Then add a check box or toggle for whether the selected plate is for the current job, role, or all. Done. Make this happen, SE.

unfortunately it works by applying regular old glamours so they would have to do a lot of work to make it like that

[heynowjose]

Question I'm a little confused about.

If say I put a top in can I then glamour just the top to a piece I'm wearing or is the only way to use that top for a glamour to make an entire plate?

[Krotoan]

Question I'm a little confused about.

If say I put a top in can I then glamour just the top to a piece I'm wearing or is the only way to use that top for a glamour to make an entire plate?

You cannot directly glamour something using an item in the dresser. You have to apply it to a plate first. Currently I have one plate reserved for this need, changing things out as I go.

That is not convenient though, remember they titled the one thing "glams made easy" that isn't easy and wasting more time then the old system.
You called the old system more efficient, of course no one is going to praise SE for this mess. I did ot say I had to go to the inn to use plates, I said I have to go to the inn to put items in it, and it is a pain when you are limited with how many windows you can pull up. You can't retainer > dresser, you can't chobobo bag > dresser, you can't use dyes from the bag, you cant glam from items in the bag, it is an extremely limited mess and you are shocked so many are unhappy with this?

I find this system far easier to use than the old system. I build my look, I make a plate, I apply my plate. If any item in my gear gets upgraded, I can simply apply the plate again to restore my look.

I'm praising SE for this "mess". It works great. The only real limitations it has right now are space, and Squadron glamours. Everything else is fine. I detailed my complaints with it earlier, but they're mostly about things that have been promised to be expanded later (yes I understand SE has failed promises before... I got it I got it.)

No you cant directly glamour a retainer from the dresser, but you can make a plate, put on the gear and glamour it then put it on your retainer. This is actually faster than the old way of taking the gear off the retainer and glamouring each piece individually with 1-5 different prisms.

Don't put your dyes in the chocobo bag. Don't put things you want to use in the field in the chocobo bag. Put stuff you want to hold but don't have an immediate use for in your chocobo bag and things you need constantly in your personal inventory. Why is that so weirdly complicated for you? Is it such a huge hassle to click 2 times to move something from the chocobo bag to your inventory? Are you dyeing things every 10 minutes?

plates don't work on retainers. Right now only actual gear works on retainers, so if you use something in your dresser you can't use it on your retainer.

I will say this for the 3rd time.. in the same thread
Everything your retainer wears you can wear. This is a fact.
Create the look you want for your retainer in the dresser on a plate.
Take EVERYTHING off your retainer.
Equip it all on YOUR character.
Apply the plate to YOUR character.
now everything you were wearing has the appearance glamoured to it that you wanted on your retainer.
now take everything off your character and put the gear BACK on the retainer and it will have that appearance still.


Am I saying it weird? Why is this so hard to understand?

[illgot]

I will say this for the 3rd time.. in the same thread
Everything your retainer wears you can wear. This is a fact.
Create the look you want for your retainer in the dresser on a plate.
Take EVERYTHING off your retainer.
Equip it all on YOUR character.
Apply the plate to YOUR character.
now everything you were wearing has the appearance glamoured to it that you wanted on your retainer.
now take everything off your character and put the gear BACK on the retainer and it will have that appearance still.


Am I saying it weird? Why is this so hard to understand?

makes sense and I'll have to try this, but damn this system is convoluted.

[alimdia]

The only way this system can be salvaged for people who play more than one job is: Make as many plates as there are classes/jobs, allow people to store plate number in a gearset, increase dresser capacity at least tenfold, and maybe this will get closer to the glamour log people were actually asking for.

Having trouble following what it actually does from the thread here. And two posts directly contradict what happens if there's an empty spot on a glamour plate. What happens? Does it wipe the glamour on the corresponding gear spot? Or does it ignore spots you didn't fill in to the plate? For me, I have outfits per role that only differ by weapons. Will this new system let me put (for instance) all of my tank gear on a plate and things look right as I swap from tank to tank? How about if I swap from a tank to say Dragoon? Very confused...

It ignores the spot.

The best way to understand this system is, imagine if you could have a macro that says

/castglamour "tamamo headband"
/castglamour "skallic coat of healing"

This macro would use the old system to cast glamour on those two slots. That's all the new system does, except it doesn't consume prisms. Since it uses the old system the changes apply to the gear itself, not to the job, so if you did this on ast the changes will show on sch and whm, you would have to create a new macro (plate) to /castglamour anything you want for scholar.

But here's the trick: you can only create/modify those macros in an inn room, and the macro fails if you try to use it outside main cities or residential areas, OR you can't equip anything listed in the macro, so if you're out in open world and switch between ast and sch you can't even use your glamour switch macro.

[Selova]

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You have Tanks and healers (even Male Roes....shudder) running around in bikinis, Speedos and booty shorts. I'm pretty sure that at this point the "I don't want to see tanks wearing healer dresses" line of reasoning flew out the window long ago.

[Iscah]

Does anyone know how the system works with reacquiring “unique” items you’ve turned to glamours? I’d like to put the Gambler’s Boots in there for setting up plates, but maybe also keep the actual item on hand, so to do that I’d need to be able to repurchase the ‘unique’ item once I’ve converted my current one. Which I might be able to if the game doesn’t think I have it any more. Can I do that?

Maybe they should have done it so the image of the item gets stored, and the item binds to you but doesn’t vanish from your inventory. Then you could choose whether to discard it or not.

[Rockette]

Has anyone tested out the plates with the Fashion Police game in gold saucer? Does it work or do you need the actual item on hand?

[Iscah]

Has anyone tested out the plates with the Fashion Police game in gold saucer? Does it work or do you need the actual item on hand?

I think the description said your gear gets judged on its current glamoured appearance. So it’d work the same whether you use plates or just equip/glamour the old way.

[Brynne]

When I first read that the glamour plates overwrote existing glamours on whatever gear you had equipped, I was dismayed. My first thought was "well, this is dumb", just like the thread title implies. Then after I let it sit for a while, I realized that was because I had in my head an idea of what the glamour dresser was supposed to do, and it didn't match what the design actually intends. The system is made to make it easier for you to reapply your glamour without consuming a bunch of glamour prisms and without glamour gear taking up space in your inventory. That's all. Once you wrap your head around that, it starts to make sense and the idea of it is actually appealing (once they can get rid of the limitations).

I'm still hesitant to use it, because I don't want to put gear from the mog station or stuff that's difficult to get into the dresser in case I want it later for something else. I've put in my level 70 job specific gear (since you can just buy it from the Calamity Salvager), but I'm hesitant to make or use glamour plates with it because I'd need to re-glamour my generic caster outfit after switching back from summoner to red mage, and I don't want to put some of those items for the "generic" set into the glamour dresser at this point.

It kind of sucks because I'd sure like to start using this system and see how it feels out (and free up more armoury/inventory space) but the limitations make me really hesitant to do so. I'd be so much more comfortable with this if you could take things back out...