Monk 4.2 Adjustments

[Shiroe]

mnk just might have gotten too much love? sure, mnk needs to pull a bit ahead of nin ..., and needed a tackle- mastery revamp... , but dps-wise mnk was already competing with Sam numbers (like Mr. Happy noted), now it just might pull right up too sam if not overtake,.. with the mnk utilities?

mnk will become the new smn.. (or/ and new nin)?

[SpeckledBurd]

mnk just might have gotten too much love? sure, mnk needs to pull a bit ahead of nin ..., and needed a tackle- mastery revamp... , but dps-wise mnk was already competing with Sam numbers (like Mr. Happy noted), now it just might pull right up too sam if not overtake,.. with the mnk utilities?

mnk will become the new smn.. (or/ and new nin)?

Hardly. We can't even say for certain how this affected Monk's DPS because it's far too early, but to say that Monk's DPS is fine was all but tied with Dragoon and was behind Machinist in terms of numbers personal numbers. It most certainly was not competing with Samurai either, it was behind it by about 5% or so. Mr. Happy is wrong.

And even ignoring DPS, most of these changes do nothing to address the long term problems with the class such as its enormous suite of overly situational actions or the bigger issue, the Job just feeling terrible to play because of Riddle of Fire's slow.

[wereotter]

mnk just might have gotten too much love? sure, mnk needs to pull a bit ahead of nin ..., and needed a tackle- mastery revamp... , but dps-wise mnk was already competing with Sam numbers (like Mr. Happy noted), now it just might pull right up too sam if not overtake,.. with the mnk utilities?

mnk will become the new smn.. (or/ and new nin)?

If you look at this history of monk complaints, you'll see that no one was complaining about the amount of damage that monks do, but it's entirely that monks still have a glut of useless skills after the expansion, we had even more situational skills added, and completely useless traits. We also complained that the buffs added generally are finicky to get to work (Fists of Earth) or feel like a nerf to use (Fists of Fire). Add to that we're the only job in the game not to get a new attack this expansion, and that we have lingering complains still hanging around since 2.0 and you can understand why so many are frustrated.

Most of us just want the job to be enjoyable and playable when it comes to various mechanics. If you watch, for example, the boss fight with Old One in Forgotten City of Skalla, you can see how the entire fight was designed without the limitations of this job in mind as it's pretty much a guarantee you'll lose your stacks of greased lightning twice in the fight with nothing you can do about it.