Results 1 to 10 of 475

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Sebazy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    3,468
    Character
    Sebazy Spiritwalker
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by era1Ne View Post
    Do you have a quote?
    I’ve taken the liberty to bold the bit being referred to.

    At one point it was decided that Holy was too strong for white mage and it was weakened. Despite that, you're adding additional attack actions besides Holy, were these new abilities added to give some of that capability back?

    Yoshida: No, that's not it.


    So you expect it to go up overall?

    Yoshida: Yes. Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well. For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

    Certainly for people who are at world's first level, their goal is to clear it at as low an item level as possible, lower than the one assumed during development. So if you look at the fight and figure out that if it's not numerically possible to clear with four DPS and tanks, you'll need to make up the gap with DPS from healers. Then when those publish clear videos and other people see the healers DPSing, they might think that healers need to be DPSing even though its a situation that only arose because their clear would have otherwise been impossible. While we could take this into account, and assume a different item level in the next update which would then make it impossible to clear even with the healer DPS, we'd eliminate this type of play for highly skilled players who use communication, items, and a high level of understanding to come up with those last second clears. That would be a tough decision to make, so I still think it should be up to each party's own plans.

    This is also one of the reasons we decided to implement both a normal and savage version of Alexander. Once again, healer DPS was not included in the development team's calculation as it was for other jobs, so you should just think of healer DPS as a last way to get your overall party's DPS up to where it needs to be.
    The full article from BG is here:

    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...-Event-5-19%29
    (4)
    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  2. #2
    Player
    era1Ne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    360
    Character
    Kira Thrinaria
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I’ve taken the liberty to bold the bit being referred to.



    The full article from BG is here:

    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...-Event-5-19%29
    That was quick. Thanks.
    Certainly for people who are at world's first level, their goal is to clear it at as low an item level as possible, lower than the one assumed during development.
    This is the important bit and what i mentioned as one of the situations in which you need help from the healers. But it is not needed in the sense, that you'll never ever clear without it. You need to be good, have the ilvl the devs balanced the content with and next to no deaths (maybe). This is not an impossible task. Personally i wouldn't do it, because dealing dmg is fun for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    "I don't want to" is not a good reason to slow down fights and make the lives of others harder.
    I have the same opinion about this, even if i defend healers sometimes. But i don't defend healers that think "healer are healers" or the argument you stated are valid. They are not, because this is a team game and everyone should try their best. If the person is inexperienced and therefore decide to focus on healing first, instead of trying to push dmg, then thats fine imo. But doing less with the only reason "hey i joined as a heal!" is just ignorant. Sometimes i think, i don't get the point across, because my english is fairly limited :/
    (4)
    Last edited by era1Ne; 01-20-2018 at 10:42 PM.