Black Mage

[Shiroe]

odd they buffed smn (single) and mnk in general... they seemed fine.. (well mnk did need a slight increase to nin.. or nin needed a nerf)

in that case B4/F4 need a sustainable increase like 320 afterall..., especially since Smn and mkn are going up too

(but see 280 max 300 as what we're going to get -.-'.., and that not being enough by far after all.. meaning the devs just wasted an opportunity... damn.. now we have to rage the next months again till its fixed... and im stuck on smn..)

[Sunako]

odd they buffed smn (single)

Where did you read they buffed summoner? I can only see nerf here?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Update-Thread

[Shiroe]

Where did you read they buffed summoner? I can only see nerf here?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Update-Thread

read smn aoe is getting a nerf and as compensation single target a "slight" buff

got it from the reddit

[Maero]

read smn aoe is getting a nerf and as compensation single target a "slight" buff

got it from the reddit

If that be the case that is bs, smn already have higher ST damage then blm atm

[Shiroe]

If that be the case that is bs, smn already have higher ST damage then blm atm

smn out doing blm is due to aoe possibilities in the fight or heavy movement (which indicates blm can use a tick more mobility in heavy fights, even when the fight is learned)

but on a dummy and on low / easy movemet fights, smn will not out dps a blm (unless you count in the aetherpac 2% buff on the group), ..but smn does a lot / too much for an utility dps compared to blm as raw dps

eitherway think SE sees it like this:

the classes with the lowest own dps should br meta (to be on speeskill rankings).. while the classes with the personal highest dps should (highest fflogs damage rankings) should not also be in the speedkill rankings..., that way sam, blm, smn, mnk should be in the one ranking (damage)... drg, nin, brd, mch in the other ranking (speedkill)..., rdm is a joker and prog godsend

... just hope the "non" speedkill meta classes will stay valid in pfs (maybe parallel meta: mnk, sam, blm & smn??? in 4.2)

just SE has to "balance" in a way, that the "raw dps" classes (with their overall dps) can compete with "drg + 2 ranged" (comp with all their buffs).., same with mnk & smn with their buffs ... if possible