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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    That's correct. The reason is the tank cannot run with his 500 mobs to you (thus, breaking/vanishing all and any aoe effects under mobs feet) to get the one mob you have.

    You don't need to kiss Tank, just move your mob near enough to have him range with flash or anything else to get your mob.

    We tanks want to get your mobs, but we don't want chase our dps or healers mates running away because they got hate. Running to tank, not to the other side of the duty, is the best thing to do if rogue mobs break hate from tank.
    Well that cost you a lot of dps. Since if you move cancels your attack chain. Also I when I play a tank class I always watch the monsters agro if see one going after another player I make sure hit it to bring it back. Also Monster that attack me wasn't very far from the tank. My War could hit it easy. Tanks jobs is to watch agro to monsters in a large pull to make sure they don't go after the healer or dps. Otherwise your not good tank.
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    That's why we need built-in parser, ppl tho other don;t know how bad they were so they "advise" others using inappropriate manner.
    If everyone know their DPS clearly, then at least you can see how good the bad guys doing.
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  3. #63
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    It's society these days everyone is offended look at H&M lol one mistake and people are destroying their stores lol and up in arms about something that was clearly a huge over looked mistake
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinazu View Post
    .

    Kinda sounds like a troll right there. He lost credibility when he called you a Summoner when you were an Arcanist.
    Not to mention (correct me, someone, if I'm wrong here, but), even if you were a Summoner, you'd get synced and some of the skillsets you'd have would be cut off from you, so, I would've love to have known just what you weren't doing, other than what you already were doing, that you needed to do.

    Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy said that cause he was the weak dps of the group and was trying to put the blame on you.

    Sorry that happened to you. Don't let it get you down too much. When you play a popular game like this, you're bound to run into the crazies.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    That's why we need built-in parser, ppl tho other don;t know how bad they were so they "advise" others using inappropriate manner.
    If everyone know their DPS clearly, then at least you can see how good the bad guys doing.
    Please don't bring another parser discussion here, because then this thread will also turn into a parser discussion. We have three or four of those going on simultaneously right now lol. That being said, agreed. DPS players need to top of the 1-button/half-rotation combos, because it does affect everybody else's run.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorciechan View Post
    Kinda sounds like a troll right there. He lost credibility when he called you a Summoner when you were an Arcanist.
    Not to mention (correct me, someone, if I'm wrong here, but), even if you were a Summoner, you'd get synced and some of the skillsets you'd have would be cut off from you, so, I would've love to have known just what you weren't doing, other than what you already were doing, that you needed to do.

    Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy said that cause he was the weak dps of the group and was trying to put the blame on you.

    Sorry that happened to you. Don't let it get you down too much. When you play a popular game like this, you're bound to run into the crazies.
    Did you read the post fully? because they explained what the issue was and learned but even so, they did so in a bad manner. Kinazu was not casting dots on the other monsters. So basically kinazu would cast their dots on one target, kill it, then move on the next, that is not how you do things.

    Also I see people call the job name of the class they are on a lot, it is not troll, some people forget classes exists or simply more used to using the job name when talking.

    I am not defending Kinazu's rude person, way that person acted was uncalled for, its just someone calling a class the job it leads into is insanely common, I wouldn't call someone a troll for doing that, it is more out of habit then anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Please don't bring another parser discussion here, because then this thread will also turn into a parser discussion. We have three or four of those going on simultaneously right now lol. That being said, agreed. DPS players need to top of the 1-button/half-rotation combos, because it does affect everybody else's run.
    The OP referenced prasers>< they are basically mocking ani-praser view points

    "I noticed it more in parser topic;like "your DPS is low" OMG Harasment call the GM !""
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 01-15-2018 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    The OP referenced prasers>< they are basically mocking ani-praser view points

    "I noticed it more in parser topic;like "your DPS is low" OMG Harasment call the GM !""
    But making fun of something you think is silly isn't the same as asking for a debate on the topic. I get that you have an opinion here but there are ample threads in which to discuss parsing, this one is to address people being too easily offended in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    But making fun of something you think is silly isn't the same as asking for a debate on the topic. I get that you have an opinion here but there are ample threads in which to discuss parsing, this one is to address people being too easily offended in this game.
    That is why I disagree with them making this thread in the first place but I did not comment that until now because now I feel I have to explain this. Basically I see this thread in bad taste in trying to call out other people's opinions on those threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    That is why I disagree with them making this thread in the first place but I did not comment that until now because now I feel I have to explain this. Basically I see this thread in bad taste in trying to call out other people's opinions on those threads.
    DPS is low doesn't always reference parsing, though. If I'm tanking, I can tell if mobs are taking forever to die - maybe I'm not able to single out a single DPS, but I can tell when something doesn't feel right. The OP is right, though, there are players who are getting way too sensible about things that are, in a lot of cases, neutral and solid advice, and for whatever reason, they end up getting too offended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    DPS is low doesn't always reference parsing, though. If I'm tanking, I can tell if mobs are taking forever to die - maybe I'm not able to single out a single DPS, but I can tell when something doesn't feel right. The OP is right, though, there are players who are getting way too sensible about things that are, in a lot of cases, neutral and solid advice, and for whatever reason, they end up getting too offended.
    I know that, but this thread was clearly made because of those parser threads.
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