Glamours made easy - announcement

[Alestorm]

I just hope the eventual housing item doesn't require the "obscenely-expensive materials du-jour." At the very least, I hope they offer different tiered recipe options, like they do with the aquariums.

If it's locked behind more treasure map RNG I think people will lose it. The crafted glamour items this expansion are bad enough, this would just be the cherry on a pile of poop.

[Lukha]

At the very least, I hope they offer different tiered recipe options,

I don't even care that much about what materials it uses, but I'd definitely like to see a more compact version that just looks like a small, tabletop jewelry box or something? The full model is a bit bulky and gaudy for my tastes, though if you can close the drawers and have it look like an ordinary vanity that would be great...

[Iscah]

I don't even care that much about what materials it uses, but I'd definitely like to see a more compact version that just looks like a small, tabletop jewelry box or something? The full model is a bit bulky and gaudy for my tastes, though if you can close the drawers and have it look like an ordinary vanity that would be great...

It looks to me like it could sit closed until you interact with it, then it opens up at the same time the interface comes up? At least that's how I'd do it if I was making something that looked like that.

The jewellery box is a nice idea too. They have a similar idea with full-size and miniature orchestrions, so it's possible.

[Minako_Nightsong]

I am out of the loop so can someone tell me why they don't use a system like WoW's transmog log? Has it got something to do with consoles? WoW is much older technology so I don't understand.

[Krotoan]

I am out of the loop so can someone tell me why they don't use a system like WoW's transmog log? Has it got something to do with consoles? WoW is much older technology so I don't understand.

we've never gotten a definitive answer as to why any particular solution has been used or not used in any situation. FFXIV's Devs don't usually discuss internal decisions on system implementation with the userbase.

If you're asking for speculation or general consensus there are two answers:

a.That system wouldn't work with the higgldy-piggldy that is FFXIVs engine and server network/framework.

b. They are stupid and/or hate us and/or they don't understand that's something we want. (.. this seems unlikely)

[Hasrat]

If you're asking for speculation or general consensus there are two answers:

Or could be just as likely they're trying to do something unique and not just copy/paste another game's mechanic.

[Alleo]

I am out of the loop so can someone tell me why they don't use a system like WoW's transmog log? Has it got something to do with consoles? WoW is much older technology so I don't understand.

I dont understand that either. Its not only WoW..Rift has a great glamor system too which is miles above that dresser..there are MMOs out there which they could use as an inspiration but I somehow feel like this is just another bandaid..I get the feeling that they noticed the anger of their community about glamour and space and just thought up a system that would give us a bit more space and hope that this would be enough. Or they wanted to invent the wheel again..They seem to love to take community wishes and turn it into something overly complicated..like LoV..

Yes it might be that they increase the limit over time but how long did it take them to deal with housing (and we still dont even know if they truly deal with it in 4.2). We also still dont have more apartments even though a lot of servers run out of them quite fast and even though they promised us that they would increase the number if its needed..So I remain skeptic that they will handle that in a good way.

Even the Japanese players told them in the last liveletter that 10 ensembles is too low..and Yoshida was like "give us a break"..no we wont..you could have worked on such a system for a long time but decided to just introduce it after a lot of complains..its not our fault that they like to ignore problems as long as possible..

If you truly need a macro to change stuff then I will just use this dresser as another retainer and put some of my glamour in this and just use the old system..and if they do not increase the limit by 5.0 or have any other plans to introduce a true glamour book..well I am not sure if I am going to play that game after that..

I indeed think it's laughable that people think the Devs are that disconnected or clueless. .. but it's what people have posted, so .. common consensus.

People will always ask for results without knowing the challenges as long as they aren't in the industry. Unfortunately most of the people demanding results here are also very young and have a hard time with empathizing a position they've never been in.

People wanted to have pet battles that are like Pokemon or something like WoW..yet they gave us LoV which was death on arrival..seems they truly listened to us here. Also Diadem got a lot of feedback and yet somehow SE managed to mess up the second version even more..so yes I believe that sometimes truly dont understand what we want..or just dont care and want to create something new and complicated for the sake of it..

Honestly. No joke. How many full outfits do you need glamoured at once at any given time?

Well gatherers often have one outfit that is often BiS and crafters too. So if I want different outfits for each of these classes I will already need all ten of them..thats without any battle jobs. So yes 10 is not enough.

[Krotoan]

People wanted to have pet battles that are like Pokemon or something like WoW..yet they gave us LoV which was death on arrival..seems they truly listened to us here. Also Diadem got a lot of feedback and yet somehow SE managed to mess up the second version even more..so yes I believe that sometimes truly dont understand what we want..or just dont care and want to create something new and complicated for the sake of it..

So.. you wanted pokemon . Alright awesome, pokemon IS super fun. YOU wanted pokemon, other people asked "let us do more with our minions" . I don't remember a huge outcry for pokemon particularly, nor anyone detailing any reasonable system. I actually enjoy LoV (I just like minions really). Bummer other people don't, however they DID listen to "let us do something with our minions".
People said: we want RNG gear and difficult content. SE implemented Diadem. People apparently didn't want THAT kind of difficult content AND the RNG in the same place.

THings fail, people don't know what they really want.

Any company that listened to someone proposing something "new and complicated for the sake of it" is committing suicide and an established and successful company isn't going to do things for those reasons. SE screws up for sure, but it's because they're trying to create content we'd pay to access and sometimes they do it wrong.

I understand you're frustrated with what you got when you asked for apples and got grapes, but that doesn't mean the company is doing it because they want to be contrary. What they heard was a request for fruit and did their best. Sometimes things happen because there are limitations and struggles we are not privy to.

It's disheartening to see the devs cook up something decent and before anyone even gets a taste the forums explode with people saying it sucks and/or they want more than that.

[Balipu]

At best, one per role plus favorite job, one per dol/h (unless you use job specific items from yellow scrip) and the rest is usual experimentation/rp gear.

well we currently have 5 roles. Assuming you didn't pick your favorite job for the role picks and have a separate set for DoL and DoH you still stand at 8 sets at absolute maximum. So you can have 2 RP sets.

One per job would be ideal, so 15 at this point. I don't really understand why they decided to only give us 10.

Well gatherers often have one outfit that is often BiS and crafters too. So if I want different outfits for each of these classes I will already need all ten of them..thats without any battle jobs. So yes 10 is not enough.

Again, you two. Do you really need a glamour available for EVERY combat job? All of them? You really honestly regularly play all of them? I seriously don't buy that.

I think it is laughable that you can't see they do not listen to us or understand what we want. They do not post here, they do not show connection at all. So yes they are acting clueless, or stubborn and think what they give out is better when it is not.

Wel I know you've been here barely a month but I'm sure you noticed the dev tracker here on the forum. You know what it tracks? That's right. Dev responses on this forum. See, this is how easy it is to see that you are talking out of your butthole.

Server limitations or not enough budget or something, it is why I been voicing that I dislike what they are proposing while some are telling me "just accept it, it is a start"

Well I disagree on that idea. I am on the stance just put more money in the game already, we pay a lot for this game, lots of people, why can't we see a return on it?

Because we includes many people with various different wishes and priorities and neither you nor I nor anyone else can claim to speak for all of them. Fans of world of warcraft can't seem to be able to grasp the concept of getting one new class in two consecutive expansions. In just two expansions we were getting five. They also seem to believe that a patch that includes a dungeon and a raid (both staggered and unavailable at patch day) makes a patch the largest in MMO history. Here people acted like the sky is falling when Yoshida said that odd numbered patches will only get one dungeon. From this angle we seem to be getting plenty of return. We might even be spoiled.

yup that is what they are doing. I am siding with they do not understand what we are requesting, or do not want to because it will cost too much money. (in their eyes)

In their eyes. And i suppose you as an outsider who has been playing this game for a month knows more about Square Enix's finances than the people who have been working there for years.

[Lucke]

Ew.

People wanted to have pet battles that are like Pokemon or something like WoW..yet they gave us LoV which was death on arrival..seems they truly listened to us here. Also Diadem got a lot of feedback and yet somehow SE managed to mess up the second version even more..so yes I believe that sometimes truly dont understand what we want..or just dont care and want to create something new and complicated for the sake of it..

Lemmie tell ya something. SE pretty much made Pokemon with FF characters and called it "World of Final Fantasy". Since they've shown they could do it, if they revamped LoV into something like WoFF and it's battle system, it would be a bazillion times better than LoV is now. I'd never leave the Gold Saucer. But this is about glams.