Blue mage pls

[Rosalynd]

Black Mage is still the "dark caster", with necromancers being considered as Black Mages on steroids. Fun lore for it too.

Still no actual Darkness magic though, just generic fantasy mage with sinister clothes and being the victim of close minded white magic users being essentially racist.

Saying a black mage fits the bill of say, a witch, is like saying a summoner fits the bill of blue mage because they can use some abilities based off "summon" enemies.

[Kazrah]

Still no actual Darkness magic though

What do you think Foul is?

Also, go check the actual lore for Black Mage. Until then, that's as close as it gets.

[Alacran]

Still no actual Darkness magic though, just generic fantasy mage with sinister clothes and being the victim of close minded white magic users being essentially racist.

Saying a black mage fits the bill of say, a witch, is like saying a summoner fits the bill of blue mage because they can use some abilities based off "summon" enemies.

As you say, no mages truly access magic derived specifically from darkness/ Void. However Dark Knights do bring Voidal magics to bear in combat. Unfortunately more detailed information is yet to be released (something i hope is remedied in 5.0 Dark Knight job story line).

Below are some abilities and skills as described in the Encyclopedia Erozea. Some names and skills have different names.

Dark Knight - Dark Arts [ref: 239]

Fueled by the darkness from within ,the dark knight employs these techniques to lend an arcane edge to the blows of her greatsword. Though known for their disdain for shields, the fighting style of the earliest dark knights was nevertheless built upon mundane swordplay, and it was not until several centuries later that one of their order first unlocked the secrets of the dark arts.

Dark Knight - Darkness [ref: 239]

Arising from the fear and wrath within the dark knight’s own soul, this shadowy flame feeds greedily on her body’s aether, its Stygian fires coursing through her blade and fueling her eldritch arts. But as ever, such power comes with a price: should the dark knight lose control over this darkness, she will be consumed in a backlash of entropic energies.

Dark Force

By infusing a vast well of aether with her own inner darkness, the dark knight forms arcane barriers of impregnable midnight. The sight of liquid shadow pouring from a sky torn open by this otherwise benevolent technique is commonly described as “unsettling”.

Unleash

Releasing his pain and rage upon nearby foes, the dark knight manifests an inky black circle of spikes on the ground around him. All those caught in its thorns are struck by unreasoning terror, and an irresistible need to claw away at its source.

Living Dead

This dark art allows the practitioner to continue fighting through the most heinous of injuries, and exhibit an immunity to pain usually attributed to the shambling undead. Though undeniably effective, abandoning one’s corporeal form to negative energy in this manner, however briefly, is an act fraught with mortal peril.

[basketofseals]

They can always go outside of tradition with Blue Mage.

Let's use Dark Knight for example. It doesn't have the same HP sacrifice gimmick as any other Dark Knights in FF, it wasn't even fit to be a tank because of that ability but all of it is ignored for this version except the aesthetic and recurring skill names, and nobody bats an eye. People like it.

I can see them giving Blue Mage the similar treatment.

What do you have them actually do though? There's VERY few notable monsters in FFXIV itself, and of those even fewer have notable attacks, and of those I can't think of any that don't just apply a status effect. Should the intention to just add a bunch of new mobs that are apparently renowned for something that we've just never paid attention to before? It could work, but honestly the idea doesn't really excite me.

[Kazrah]

What do you have them actually do though? There's VERY few notable monsters in FFXIV itself, and of those even fewer have notable attacks, and of those I can't think of any that don't just apply a status effect. Should the intention to just add a bunch of new mobs that are apparently renowned for something that we've just never paid attention to before? It could work, but honestly the idea doesn't really excite me.

That was one of the easier things to figure out with the concept I made for Blue Mage in my sig (#shamelessplug), but mostly because inspirations for the skills came mainly from the two FFTA games.

As for that DRK analogy, the "HP sacrifice gimmick" is actually there, just in the form of taking damage as a tank rather than the traditional method of the past. It also had a salty reception because it wasn't like it was in past games (much like Samurai), but was quickly forgiven by players embracing their inner edgelord.

[LastFireAce]

I want a third long range physical DPS, the way won't be MCH and BRD anymore.

[dinnertime]

What do you have them actually do though? There's VERY few notable monsters in FFXIV itself, and of those even fewer have notable attacks, and of those I can't think of any that don't just apply a status effect. Should the intention to just add a bunch of new mobs that are apparently renowned for something that we've just never paid attention to before? It could work, but honestly the idea doesn't really excite me.

For me it would be cool for Blue Mage to use Primal abilites. Primals are pretty notable and they have notable attacks. They could even channel the Primal within them. I dunno.
There's plenty other ways though.

[Balipu]

For me it would be cool for Blue Mage to use Primal abilites. Primals are pretty notable and they have notable attacks. They could even channel the Primal within them.

And once Blue Mages get an ability from a primal after Garuda, summoners will drill Yoshie a new butthole with burning pitchforks. Nah, let's not kill the game please. I am very much fond of it.

the concept I made for Blue Mage in my sig (#shamelessplug)

It is an interesting concept. There is just one problem. Beside that one debuff it doesn't really provide any unique gameplay. Yoshie is really allergic to jobs that play the same way, and after looking at wow now, I am very glad for that.

[basketofseals]

For me it would be cool for Blue Mage to use Primal abilites. Primals are pretty notable and they have notable attacks. They could even channel the Primal within them. I dunno.
There's plenty other ways though.

But that's literally the plot of SMN 50-60

[dinnertime]

And once Blue Mages get an ability from a primal after Garuda, summoners will drill Yoshie a new butthole with burning pitchforks. Nah, let's not kill the game please. I am very much fond of it.

I doubt the game will die because of that. Summoners have been complaining about everything about their job (including me) yet the game is still alive and going lol
It's just an idea that'll never happen anyway.

But that's literally the plot of SMN 50-60

Dreadwyrm Trance is great and all but in my opinion it doesn't fit Summoner.