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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    It is an interesting concept. There is just one problem. Beside that one debuff it doesn't really provide any unique gameplay. Yoshie is really allergic to jobs that play the same way, and after looking at wow now, I am very glad for that.
    Thanks for reading it! And I know, it's now really out of date, so I've been working on a more updated concept that addresses that (among some other things).

    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    For me it would be cool for Blue Mage to use Primal abilites.
    Seriously, what is it with people wanting Blue Mage to have primal abilities? It keeps popping up time and time again, and that's never been what Blue Mage has been about ever in the thirty year history of Final Fantasy, ever.

    We have a primal-themed job. It's called Summoner.

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    It's my first time seeing something about it.

    I won't even argue about the Primal ability idea because I don't care and it's not worth the energy, but we've seen them break or bend from tradition with FFXIV's jobs so expect Blue Mage, if ever released, to be different than what it has been about ever in the thirty year history of Final Fantasy, ever.
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    People are acting as if there are not already spells that are learned through quest. Something could be done. It would be bomb to have to fail a mechanic and win to learn some spells. Also so spells can be gated behind combos or abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Seriously, what is it with people wanting Blue Mage to have primal abilities? It keeps popping up time and time again, and that's never been what Blue Mage has been about ever in the thirty year history of Final Fantasy, ever.

    We have a primal-themed job. It's called Summoner.
    I really don't get it either.

    Like, out of all the ways they could think of making BLU different, they pick Primal abilities. SMN being literally the job for this but they want to clone it for BLU?

    Why

    Just why

    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    For blue mage you just need to let us select 3 or so skills that look different but have the same effect/potency and are only different in look. That solves all the balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I really don't get it either.

    Like, out of all the ways they could think of making BLU different, they pick Primal abilities. SMN being literally the job for this but they want to clone it for BLU?

    Why

    Just why

    lol
    DoM vengeance tank would be refreshing change of pace for DoM jobs and the tank role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    DoM vengeance tank would be refreshing change of pace for DoM jobs and the tank role.
    *Points to Shapeshifter thread in sig*

    .....actually, I'm pretty sure it's not a vengeance tank, but it is a DoM tank at least.
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    From a lore point of view, the soul crystal is a blessing. You can have BLU come with a whole suite of abilities right out the gate and wave it away as the crystals previous owner went out and got them.

    **

    Personally I'd have the job as a tank with 'job gimmick one' being a 'blue magic' job gauge. Basically the boring 0-100 bar every tank is using, I'd have it build in a similar fashion to PLD. Used by toggling 'Blue Magic' stance on/off, the stance swaps some of your abilities out for enemy move based ones. For instance the basic BLU version of overpower becomes 'Morbol: Bad Breath', your DOT combo finisher becomes 'Zu: Sonic Boom', etc. costing lets say 20 points to use.

    Maybe could also change based on tank/dps stance, like in tank stance the Blue magic abilities are all Eorzean wildlife based and in DPS stance they're all voidkin based?

    Anyway, 'job gimmick two' is the 'Bluer magic' bar (terrible name I know,) basically as you spend points from your first bar they get placed into a second bar to track how many you've used. Once it's at 100 you can cast one of three or four full Bluer Magic skills. They'd be selected from a menu, like role skills, with the job quests giving you a basic loadout and extras available to be hunted down out in the world.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 01-08-2018 at 10:00 PM.

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    Dancer before Blu
    But really both jobs should be next in 5.0 not just more dps again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Dancer before Blu
    But really both jobs should be next in 5.0 not just more dps again...
    Blue tank and Dancer healer for 5.0 please. The DPS had their turn in 4.0 .
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