Black Mage

[Ceallach]

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who can't seem to get through to Ellie.... kinda. Honestly, I mean no disrespect, but it's pretty mind-boggling to read responses that blatantly ignore statements or refuse to listen to reason.

This is entirely why we don't listen to you.

You have been given a ton of reasons why a Raise variant on a black mage is an incredibly stupid idea from multiple sources and multiple reasons, and you do not give a fig for anyone's opinion but those who agree with you. We all agree black mage needs help, but we don't all agree on what kind of help. You'd rather black mage gets more utility, we'd rather black mage gets more DPS (primarily because DPS is its primary function and it's failing there more than anywhere else right now). We can argue all year about whether black mage should be more mobile, do more damage, or anything else, but at the end of the day, it's not our choice. Maybe if you cared more about the black mage as a job and less about having your own personal echo chamber, your ideas would be taken more seriously. Maybe if you understood the devs care about both the lore and the gameplay, you could come up with ideas that were worth their time. At least EllieShadeflare and I are trying to come up with ideas that aren't just flat-out stupid.

But you don't care. All you care about is turning black mage into blue mage and garnering pity from people by saying you're "forced" to play jobs you hate. Frankly, I think it would be better if you just quit this game entirely and went to World of Warcraft, where idiocy like that is embraced and appreciated from what I hear.

I think it's best if we just let this thread die and stop talking to one another entirely. The devs have all the power, so let them use it. I've had enough.

[Kabooa]

I think it's best if we just let this thread die and stop talking to one another entirely. The devs have all the power, so let them use it. I've had enough.

I mean, you're free to leave at any time.

If the reward was legitimately amazing, though, it would be an interesting concept. Like imagine seriously BLM being able to do extremely high damage, maybe even close to double what it currently is, but you have to really think ahead and figure out how to minimize losses.

You can't even have Black Mage being too far ahead of Summoner, because then that starts the cycle of buffing all over again. Fact of the matter is swinging anyone too far out of the range of others, when the game by design is about a minimal DPS check that all party comps can theoretically reach, means you can't have any one job capable of joing +20-25% of the average of the others.

You can't have this.

If it's 5%, then it's easily ignored if that 5% comes at the cost of other tools. If it's 15% you're bordering on unacceptable levels and it's 5-15%, it's a toss up but you're still better off going with the Tool-bringer because they enable more.

The Melee, Ranged, and Caster roles require a fairly large rearrangement of the tools they bring, because currently it all favors Ranged, which means you want a Dragoon to boost them, and your last spot could technically be anything but it might as well be ninja because threat and Trick attack.