Why Does It Feel Like Poor Play Is Acceptable (I'm Venting.)

[HyoMinPark]

Didn't you say just a moment ago "That doesn’t excuse his behavior as being incredibly inconsiderate of the other three people he gets in his party."

You can’t use that argument against me, and you know it.

The prior statement was made when you were talking about level 70 content. The second scenario is level 15 content. Different arguments apply because the context is entirely different. There is a huge difference between a tank who doesn’t know how to tank queuing into level 70 content and level 15 content. The latter is clearly designed as entry-level, and is more adequate for both learning and teaching than level-cap, “expert” content.

I mean, they both could have practiced on mobs in the open world. they could have watched videos. They could have practice a the smith a few more times, etc.

Tanking mobs in the overworld and tanking them in dungeons are entirely different.

I didn't say john was assuming the party would be accommodating or that he was queuing with the intent of learning. John queued because he thought he knew how to play and since he is level 70, he queued for a 70 dungeon. How did you come to the conclusion that he queued with the intention of learning from an accommodating party? You couldnt have known. If you couldn't know johns circumstances, you must have made them up. And if the circumstances were just dreamt up in your imagination, how can you hold john accountable? He never did the things you are accusing him of.

I can hold John accountable because he came into level 70 content and could not perform the very basics of his job description regardless of his “circumstances”. Again, there is a HUGE different between John in level 15 content and John in level 70 content.

What makes sastasha so special?
I've done most of the expert roulette roster without a healer (havent attempted since the addition of skalla). I've heard they can be completed without a tank. Why must it be sastasha?

I think its great you assisted the player in sastasha. I agree people who refuse to work with the party should be kicked (for example if you ask someone to use tank stance and flash but they refuse). What is the issue with assisting someone in say, Ala Mhigo instead of Sastasha if they need help? It's really not a big deal is it?

The difference is, you shouldn’t be teaching a PLD how Flash works in Ala Mhigo. If they are a level 70 PLD and don’t know how Flash functions after playing the job for 70 levels (or even just 10 if you want to assume maybe they jumped the job), then there is a huge problem there.

You shouldn’t be teaching someone the VERY BASICS OF THEIR ROLE at endgame.