Pre-pull regen?

[Usho]

Not that I agree with pre-regen pulling but, in this case, maybe be the better person and not add salt to the run? Yelling or kicking someone for this isn't the answer. I'm assuming you are a good enough tank that you can re-gain agro in this case? And tanking adds in Shield Oath? you sir, are a monster. I kid, I kid, but seriously, why make a big deal out of this? People play how they want, no matter how big or small a tantrum you have, so why complain? Be nice, play nice

First of all, I didn't yell. Apparently you're blind and didn't read the first paragraph I made before the one you quoted since I said I asked her kindly to stop. I can regain aggro but if you prepull regen the tanks you will be getting hit before said tank can gain aggro. It's wise to let the tanks get aggro first BEFORE putting on regen. That should be basic knowledge for any healer. To still have to deal with that at lvl 70 is beyond bad and it's parties like that, that make tanking more complicated at least to me.

[Usho]

Continued....



Second, It's not just the prepull regens. It's the fact that I told her more than enough times to NOT put regen on me before I pull mobs as she'll get more aggro thus having me have to move out of position to range aggro it since she still stayed far behind, thus having me move to get them and messing up the melee's positionals thus resulting in a dps loss and lost time since she was too busy chatting with friends to run the adds back to me so I can get them without messing up the other pty members rotations.

[Usho]

You are a party, a team. You aren't soloing the instance if you have more than yourself. You have to do your job (especially if you heal or tank). When I do a roulette, I want to get in, do my job (tank) and get out as quick as possible. If you continue to complicate a run because you wanna "heal or play your way" then expect to be kicked eventually. You aren't the only one in the party, you have to work together with everyone. She didn't want to work together. I told her to stop prepull regening but she kept doing it anyway and made the run last longer than it needed to be. She made the run way more complicated than it needed to be.


As a tank, healers like her, are the worst people to have to deal with.

[Cyrocco]

I just don't regen the tank before a pull starts, and if a healer does it to me while I'm pulling I let them get scuffed up a bit and they eventually learn.

[Elkanah]

Pre pull regen is wrong, I have also seen this more often in dungeons and I typically click it off. Yes the tank can control the mobs if it happens, but if someone regens before the pull be ready to get smacked. Mobs are often spaced too widely to just simply flash/op/unleash them. The tanks have to aggro One and let them converge onto the tank to pick up the rest of the group. If there are regens ticking the mobs will rush the heals instead. I hope the trend stops, but I can’t critique every heal that does it, often I get backlash for suggesting “please don’t regen me pre pull.”

Not too mention the GCD between Tomahawk/Unmend/Shield lob between Flash/Overpower and Unleashed, which needs at least 1.2 seconds to even get that off when a healer hits regen x.x

The excuse of "I'm sorry for trying to keep you alive. Maybe next time pull everything". I hate about 90% of the healers in this game who are incompetent. lol.

[Elkanah]

Not that I agree with pre-regen pulling but, in this case, maybe be the better person and not add salt to the run? Yelling or kicking someone for this isn't the answer. I'm assuming you are a good enough tank that you can re-gain agro in this case? And tanking adds in Shield Oath? you sir, are a monster. I kid, I kid, but seriously, why make a big deal out of this? People play how they want, no matter how big or small a tantrum you have, so why complain? Be nice, play nice

Uhh, healer 101 dude, don't regen during a pull. If you know how aggro works between mobs, and a tank is pulling, outside of maybe a boss, if you're regen pulling a tank, most healers don't exactly run to the tank. They run AWAY from the tank, thus extending a run longer than it needs to be, and causing issues for themselves and the party.

[Linx0r]

You are a party, a team. You aren't soloing the instance if you have more than yourself. You have to do your job (especially if you heal or tank). When I do a roulette, I want to get in, do my job (tank) and get out as quick as possible. If you continue to complicate a run because you wanna "heal or play your way" then expect to be kicked eventually. You aren't the only one in the party, you have to work together with everyone. She didn't want to work together. I told her to stop prepull regening but she kept doing it anyway and made the run last longer than it needed to be. She made the run way more complicated than it needed to be.


As a tank, healers like her, are the worst people to have to deal with.

You are totally contradicting yourself in how you explain a team. And you telling me I’m blind and just your reaction tells me you need to relax a bit . In a team, you NEVER put down another member

[Linx0r]

Uhh, healer 101 dude, don't regen during a pull. If you know how aggro works between mobs, and a tank is pulling, outside of maybe a boss, if you're regen pulling a tank, most healers don't exactly run to the tank. They run AWAY from the tank, thus extending a run longer than it needs to be, and causing issues for themselves and the party.

If you are upset in dungeon runs from someone not doing their job you may need to chill out - remember you aren’t as good as you think you are . Be better and help others rather than bitch and think your shit is the only shit worth flushing

[Elkanah]

If you are upset in dungeon runs from someone not doing their job you may need to chill out - remember you aren’t as good as you think you are . Be better and help others rather than bitch and think your shit is the only shit worth flushing

You're part of the problem if you're defending poor play. Just cause "I don't pay your sub" doesn't mean your subpar performance with 3 or 7 others time, is wasted because you're not helping the issue along, but rather prolonging it. Keep in mind kicking people is part of ToS, and anyone slowing down 7 or 3 other players in an instance (I say 7 or 3 since there's only 8 or 4 man content right now), is also a reason to kick players.

[Tridus]

Thank you, everyone, for making it to page 6 and still having a civil, logical discussion.

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