Pre-pull regen?

[Elkanah]

Not that I agree with pre-regen pulling but, in this case, maybe be the better person and not add salt to the run? Yelling or kicking someone for this isn't the answer. I'm assuming you are a good enough tank that you can re-gain agro in this case? And tanking adds in Shield Oath? you sir, are a monster. I kid, I kid, but seriously, why make a big deal out of this? People play how they want, no matter how big or small a tantrum you have, so why complain? Be nice, play nice

Uhh, healer 101 dude, don't regen during a pull. If you know how aggro works between mobs, and a tank is pulling, outside of maybe a boss, if you're regen pulling a tank, most healers don't exactly run to the tank. They run AWAY from the tank, thus extending a run longer than it needs to be, and causing issues for themselves and the party.

[Akor]

Just pull 1 mob and let the other mobs and let the heal aggro the rest. I learned the hard way too and never done it after. LUL

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

6 pages worth of discussion for something that's been ground down, rebuild and ground down again since the start of ARR? All I can recommend at this point is to level a tank and find a white mage buddy for 35+ content, have a permanent regen on you and experience it yourself from a tank's perspective

[EaMett]

Personally, I tank (PLD) most of the 4 man content because it makes for shorter queues. Ex roulette is the only one I heal because I like to get through them quickly and fast paced tanks are easier to find than healers who dps hard.

Regen mid pull is absolutely fine (pre pull doesn't really make sense or line up right with your other skills). Just if, for whatever reason, the tank misses a mob, bring it back to him (don't stand 50 yalms away). Even better is to run along side them.

The only times you want to refrain from doing so is if your tank is finding it hard to grab aggro because of it. Either they aren't comfortable with their class, have bad latency, are low on mana, are warriors (the conal does make it harder), or simply dislike it.
Literally takes two pulls to get an idea of the situation and adjust.

Regen mid pull is an extra dps uptime of a few GCDs as it aligns perfectly with your other skills, keeping you from having to tetra/bene/cure early in the pull (or sometimes even at all).
It's way more wasteful to use an ogcd while or at the end of running and then use a GCD on regen once you arrive at your destination. (Or even worse, use a gcd after running)

When you factor in the fact that most of the time it makes perfect sense on large pulls for the tanks to free up as much healer dps as possible (holy is unrivaled). Making your life as a healer easier should be the default. Only cast it aside if your tank is having trouble.
(And make sure you make it up to them on bosses since it should be your job to make sure they never use tank stance )

[Usho]

Regen mid pull is absolutely fine (pre pull doesn't really make sense or line up right with your other skills). Just if, for whatever reason, the tank misses a mob, bring it back to him (don't stand 50 yalms away). Even better is to run along side them.


When you factor in the fact that most of the time it makes perfect sense on large pulls for the tanks to free up as much healer dps as possible (holy is unrivaled). Making your life as a healer easier should be the default. Only cast it aside if your tank is having trouble.
(And make sure you make it up to them on bosses since it should be your job to make sure they never use tank stance )

As a tank and healer, I wish I could Like this comment more than once... +2 Respect and Like points Mett

[Chortle]

Is this the FF equivalent of "first world problems"?

[TaleraRistain]

Thank you, everyone, for making it to page 6 and still having a civil, logical discussion. There are some really good points made about instances where prepull regen might be useful, though it does still seem to be highly situational. I still won't do this in PUGs since I won't know how the tank will pull and don't see any reason to put additional strain on the party, but I may propose some tactics to my tank buddies and see what we might be able to pull off. I used to experiment a lot in previous MMOs. FF doesn't have a lot of room for that, but I do like to think outside the box where it does allow you to.

[Tridus]

Thank you, everyone, for making it to page 6 and still having a civil, logical discussion.

Page 7 appears to have put an end to that.

[MoroMurasaki]

Thank you, everyone, for making it to page 6 and still having a civil, logical discussion.

This must be some kind of record for us as a role-specific forum.

[VanilleFang]

This must be some kind of record for us as a role-specific forum.

Yeah, it's especially good since this the Healer forum. It's not exactly known for its civil conversations. >_>

Though on topic: I haven't much more to add except I think certain people are blowing the importance of this thread's topic way out of proportion. It's a bad habit but if there isn't a wipe just move on.