Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
25 min is pretty slow honestly, aoe is pretty simple to click but most doesn't even do that, which is about doing the basic when there is shitton of trash.
sure it's slow. But that's the point, it's not HORRIBLE. Horrible is actually failing because you RAN OUT THE TIMER on the dungeon. Or because the healer is going OOM from all the raises they're having to do.. or heals so badly that people keep dying on tiny pulls. Or that the tank is so bad at aggro that things keep turning and killing the party OR the dps is so bad things are passing enrage barriers or hard set limits (like running out of bananas on hullbreaker, which has never happened to me but I'm supposing is a lose conditional situation)

25 minutes runs aren't the subject here.