Quote Originally Posted by Llugen View Post
it is true that Raise makes the least sense on BLM of any caster
This was exactly my point regarding both lore and gameplay, and it's kind of why I oppose you on giving a Raise variant to the black mage so vehemently.

Quote Originally Posted by Llugen View Post
Furthermore, I still think Dualcast + Verraise shoud be nerfed.
I don't. The MP cost on Verraise makes it very bad to spam like that. Good red mages wouldn't be "rez dispensers." Red mage's only way to get MP back is Lucid Dreaming, while summoner has Aetherflow and Energy Drain, and black mage has Umbral Ice.

Quote Originally Posted by Claviusnex View Post
I think if you really want to increase BLM viability then it should be in the area of mobility and some type of group buff or ability. Add in a DPS increase as well and I think you will do better at increasing the job's viability while keeping job uniqueness.
Llugen, this is intelligent advice.

Quote Originally Posted by Llugen View Post
And again, CERTAINLY no one has suggested that the only thing that will fix BLM is access to raise, but it is just one more factor in why BLM is shunned from groups currently. The caster role is imbalanced, as such.
I agree that no one has suggested a Raise variant is the only way to fix black mage, but we've already debunked every potential reason why it would help. The caster role is imbalanced because black mages don't do enough damage to justify them not having any utility options, and this is only hurt by their lack of mobility. Basically, black mage should have the highest DPS, while summoner and red mage should about tie for DPS so you have the choice between damage and two types of utility. And there are a ton of reasons why, including both lore and gameplay, that a Raise variant would be unacceptable.

Quote Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak View Post
Honestly at this point, based mostly on forum feedback a lot of RDMs don't even want to rez dispense anymore, at least from what I've seen anyway.
We shouldn't. It's too costly. If we try that while Lucid Dreaming is on recast, we're basically dead with only weak weaponskills to use. I've actually told people that I'm busy when they ask me to help with raising. Anyway, let's stop trying to make a Raise variant work on black mage. It'll only encourage the bad arguments to continue.