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    347SPECTRE's Avatar
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    Khirrika Moshroca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Semi related: Why the heck does everyone use Toma to pull instead of OP? OP has more threat for a 1st action. Always seemed like gimping yourself for no reason.
    My guess is because it has a longer range
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    Aana Azel
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    Quote Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE View Post
    My guess is because it has a longer range
    Obviously it has more range but that's irrelevant. As a pulling tank, you should be the 1st action on the boss. So every pull is (OP/Toma)>Wait 2.5>Heavy swing. You aren't going to somehow get more hits faster.

    So just take 1 more step towards the mob and get +300 pot enmity. If you need the range to get that add in a dungeon whatever. But for single target raid/boss pulls you are just throwing away enmity on the most crucial point in a fight to get enmity (the 1st 20 seconds).

    It doesn't make any sense.
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Obviously it has more range but that's irrelevant. As a pulling tank, you should be the 1st action on the boss. So every pull is (OP/Toma)>Wait 2.5>Heavy swing. You aren't going to somehow get more hits faster.

    So just take 1 more step towards the mob and get +300 pot enmity. If you need the range to get that add in a dungeon whatever. But for single target raid/boss pulls you are just throwing away enmity on the most crucial point in a fight to get enmity (the 1st 20 seconds).

    It doesn't make any sense.
    It's like half the range. There are certain bosses where the encounter starting half a second early for any reason can throw off a myriad of things, let alone if the boss split-second aggros someone that's not you and moves off position.

    If you aren't losing threat in either case, you use Tomahawk, because it hits harder.
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