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    Taika's Avatar
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    I have 100% same experience with this fight. I recently posted this in Tales from Duty Finder thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Healing Shinryu ex clear party as WHM. Well, trying to. People are dying to AoEs. I see I'm healing for 9k HPS, my partner AST for 5k. I can't say this so instead I say "I feel like I'm just spamming AoE heals and it's still not enough." AST says "Me too!" Arrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.
    I admit from the start I'm not the best healer there is right now, since I'm currently BRD main, but I have mained it from Coil to Alexander and have healed OS1-OS3 and all previous Extremes, and know how to plan my ability use. I can handle my own part, but I'm not good enough to carry another healer through when they just. don't. heal. (or don't heal at correct times and refuse to apply shields). I hate saying at level 70 things like "you should use Medica II sometimes!" or "you should apply shield before the huge AoE hit!"... I've pretty much decided not to do this fight anymore without a healer partner I know and just farm OS4 weapons instead, that's probably easier anyways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I have 100% same experience with this fight. I recently posted this in Tales from Duty Finder thread:

    I admit from the start I'm not the best healer there is right now, since I'm currently BRD main, but I have mained it from Coil to Alexander and have healed OS1-OS3 and all previous Extremes, and know how to plan my ability use. I can handle my own part, but I'm not good enough to carry another healer through when they just. don't. heal. (or don't heal at correct times and refuse to apply shields). I hate saying at level 70 things like "you should use Medica II sometimes!" or "you should apply shield before the huge AoE hit!"... I've pretty much decided not to do this fight anymore without a healer partner I know and just farm OS4 weapons instead, that's probably easier anyways...
    To be fair, Shin Ex is perfectly healable with less than 8k effective HPS (both healers combined) throughout the fight. It's less about hard numbers and more about how each healer is applying their toolkit that makes a huge difference. The AST could be healing for 7k and things would still be clutch if they were never using mitigation when the situation called for it.

    Not criticizing your play or anything btw (as it was likely the AST's fault if they weren't mitigating), just a little observation about HPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estelle9lives View Post
    To be fair, Shin Ex is perfectly healable with less than 8k effective HPS (both healers combined) throughout the fight. It's less about hard numbers and more about how each healer is applying their toolkit that makes a huge difference. The AST could be healing for 7k and things would still be clutch if they were never using mitigation when the situation called for it.

    Not criticizing your play or anything btw (as it was likely the AST's fault if they weren't mitigating), just a little observation about HPS.
    Yeah I believe that, but this was practice, and there were a lot of mistakes and unoptimal tank play to be covered. I'm sure there's a lot of valid critisism to be placed on my healer play too though! You're right though, it's not that much about HPS, it's about using correct heals and abilities at correct times that was the trouble. It was just frustrating for me because I felt like I was literally doing all I could in that situation.
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    Last edited by Taika; 12-13-2017 at 08:59 PM.