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  1. #12951
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Luciel-Nyx View Post
    Ninja and whm got back quite fast, but tank was nowhere to be seen. He released at the beginning and stood there. And stood there. And stood there. No response, not a single word, obviously waiting to be kicked. I wouldn't give him the satisfaction
    You should have reported the PLD. Refusal to partake like that is reportable and from what I know, gets them put in the Mordian Gaol for a few hours so they can't even craft or gather or anything. They're just locked in there. Then tank would have had a more serious penalty than getting kicked. It's something I'm gonna be doing if I get someone like that. If I don't want to be in the duty, then I'm going to just eat the penalty and be done with it. But that is rare and pretty much only when my body has given out and I need sleep, or I've had an emergency to attend to (occasionally I do it if I get dragged downstairs to eat, because ya know, living with parents and all that).
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  2. #12952
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tchaktuli View Post
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    Sad this happens a lot.

    But I got thinking maybe a lot of those people who don't say anything are PS4 players without a keyboard?
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  3. #12953
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    You should have reported the PLD. Refusal to partake like that is reportable and from what I know, gets them put in the Mordian Gaol for a few hours so they can't even craft or gather or anything. They're just locked in there. Then tank would have had a more serious penalty than getting kicked. It's something I'm gonna be doing if I get someone like that. If I don't want to be in the duty, then I'm going to just eat the penalty and be done with it. But that is rare and pretty much only when my body has given out and I need sleep, or I've had an emergency to attend to (occasionally I do it if I get dragged downstairs to eat, because ya know, living with parents and all that).
    I've taken to reporting players who do that myself. If you're going to act like a petulant child you deserve to have your time wasted far more than what you stole from your unfortunate party members.
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  4. #12954
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    Tchaktuli's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Saphiri Rahn
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    Sad this happens a lot.

    But I got thinking maybe a lot of those people who don't say anything are PS4 players without a keyboard?
    That is definitely a possibility, but in this case I think it was a really new player who never read any of the information of what their buttons do and probably didn't even know what being a tank was. The jumping around as if the movement would dodge all the attacks and spamming one attack button with none of the defensive buttons or tomahawk or anything used just made me think really new person. Which is why I tried to take the time to talk about specific actions and stuff but nothing not even an emote just random wandering through the dungeon. It could also be someone who doesn't speak English and queued up for it to get a faster pop but as a tank the DF pops immediately anyway. Maybe they were so new they didn't know to look at their chat window?

    Anyway, it is not going to stop me from trying to help others. I'm not an expert by any stretch but I know enough to pass on the basics. ^_^
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  5. #12955
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Character
    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Healing Shinryu ex clear party as WHM. Well, trying to. People are dying to AoEs. I see I'm healing for 9k HPS, my partner AST for 5k. I can't say this so instead I say "I feel like I'm just spamming AoE heals and it's still not enough." AST says "Me too!" Arrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.
    (3)

  6. #12956
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    Shouko's Avatar
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 52
    Was in POTD last week, had a WAR with me as a PLD, not sure what his status was but I'm 99/99 he was still using the padjal weapon and it was floors 90+ He ran around trying to out aggro me for whatever reason so I let him do it. I said you need to be careful if you're going to tank on these floors, he proceeded to say nothing. I said to the rest of the party give it 5 mins the guy will end up dead. About 10 mins later and a few floors he died. I was laughing hysterically, my dog thought I was dying or something.
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  7. #12957
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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    Evermillion Mariposa
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    Ultros
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Ah, glad to see a new PvP mode hasn't stopped people from being jerks.

    Halfway thru a Rival Wings match, someone one my team says in alliance chat "Hey Evermillion how about you heal someone when they're in a mech"

    My reaction:

    ...because YOU CAN'T HEAL THE MECHS.

    If you're going to pick a fight with someone, can you at least be correct? Anywho, that's not really what set me off. After someone else in the alliance explained to her that you can't heal mechs, she added "well how about you heal anyone at all?"



    Okay, listen up, a healer closeby isn't a license to be stupid. My job is not to be your slave and protect you from your own stupidity. My job as a healer is to simply make sure the enemy doesn't kill you.

    If you're hellbent on trying to kill yourself by going to throw yourself into the enemy team with no backup around, I'm not standing around to give them two free kills. You can try and run away with me, but I'm not going to stand there and die because you don't know when to back up. Also, if my party (as in your specific party within the larger alliance) decides to run in entirely different directions, then I'm immediately taking that a license to do my own thing. If you wanna stick together, I'll be there for you, but I'm not chasing you all around the map. I'm going to be where I think I need to be and just heal whoever is around me.

    And lastly, it's the first day. The mode is brand new. Chill out.
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  8. #12958
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    Luciel-Nyx's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Mica Neiri
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I recently tried healing that DD, and that upper frog area gave me a bit of grief, too. Tank pulled a little too much (maybe accidentally), and tried to group everything in one of the dead end caves. Which might've been fine, except to dodge all the aoe, everyone had to keep ducking in and out, causing me to lose line of sight repeatedly. Wiped to that. No major frustrations, but, srsly tanks, can't heal you if I can't see you.
    That is also very true. I remember my early healing days in there with the same issue at least once.
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  9. #12959
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    Luciel-Nyx's Avatar
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    Mica Neiri
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    Phoenix
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    You should have reported the PLD. Refusal to partake like that is reportable and from what I know, gets them put in the Mordian Gaol for a few hours so they can't even craft or gather or anything. They're just locked in there. Then tank would have had a more serious penalty than getting kicked. It's something I'm gonna be doing if I get someone like that. If I don't want to be in the duty, then I'm going to just eat the penalty and be done with it. But that is rare and pretty much only when my body has given out and I need sleep, or I've had an emergency to attend to (occasionally I do it if I get dragged downstairs to eat, because ya know, living with parents and all that).
    I wanted to (even told the pld in chat he is going to be reported for this), but then we got the new tank immediately and my spite bubbled down at the end of the dungeon, so when I got out, I kind of didn't felt like bothering with the report anymore. I don't really remember the nick either, tho if I looked at the list of the players I played with last, I may still find him. But I agree, if they don't want to be in the dungeon anymore, just goddamn leave and don't waste other people's time
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  10. #12960
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    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Omega 1. Normal.

    So we had at least one new person. This is fine; I welcome new people as long as they try. Oh, but then the fight got rolling, and I got to basically solo heal on Whm in the late hours of the evening when I'm already running on only a few hours of sleep over the couple days prior. What can possibly go wrong here?

    People dying instantly to AOEs, including the Sch no less than three times (I lost count). Swiftcast being on cooldown for one Raise I had to hard cast, and then the main tank went INTO DELIVERANCE WHEN I"M HALFWAY DONE CASTING, so the tank died in two hits from the boss (Regen up before the cast began, and Benison was on CD too) right as the Raise went out. Swiftcast coming back in time to raise that War, but the Sch goes down again just before Alte brings everyone's health down to practically nil (which I counter with well-timed Medicas and Indulgence). More people dying to fireballs exploding or people overlapping their levinbolt. Me keeping both tanks up long enough to pop healer LB3 to raise everyone else. The next Charybdis and Roar being fine, except the same War from earlier SOMEHOW dies half a second after Indulgence goes off. The battle finally ending when the Rdm manages a LB1.

    And then I lose the one item I went in for - the Chain (for an alt class). The DF for the instance dies for the night after that.

    That was the gist of what happened. I may or may not have messed up tenses and whatnot because the experience made me feel like my brain just disintegrated. The comms I got were nice, but good gods... All of that work for basically nothing, and hardly any chance to go back in until probably tomorrow. After the two mores or more of unsuccessful bird farming--literally only one bird dropped in 25 runs of Zurv Ex, and I didn't even get that either--this whole thing just makes me want to set stuff on fire before heading to bed. Apparently it's just not my night for drops.
    (1)

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