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    HoodRat's Avatar
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    Hood Rat
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Perhaps the playerbase can't do a basic opener because the game does absolutely nothing to explain what those are and never actually encourages you to experiment through trial and error.
    Let's not forget that people who try to help are usually met with a less than reasonable attitude. There was a reddit thread devoted entirely to skipping that first soar. It had detailed openers for every job specifically made to do as much damage before you fall down. But when you scroll through the comments down past the ones up top that are giving the OP the different openers, most of the comments you see are along the lines of, "just stop whining and learn how to do soar!"

    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    Players who usually farm mounts and I mean like a large population of players who currently farm old mounts, is because they could never do it at that level it was at. The issue is still there, at lvl 70 people can still not do mechanics right and wipe a group. And the ironic part? They do it because they know they can skip mechanics to make it easier, which is where damage comes in.
    I joined an unsynced zurvan ex pf near the beginning of SB to help a friend get her first clear. The damage was so low that not only were we unable to skip soar with a full party of 8 level 70s, I was able to hold aggro perfectly fine with broken gear in dps stance without shadewalker/shirk. I don't even know how that's possible unless they were only hitting one button every 10 seconds or something.
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    Let's not forget that people who try to help are usually met with a less than reasonable attitude. There was a reddit thread devoted entirely to skipping that first soar. It had detailed openers for every job specifically made to do as much damage before you fall down. But when you scroll through the comments down past the ones up top that are giving the OP the different openers, most of the comments you see are along the lines of, "just stop whining and learn how to do soar!"
    Remember though. Only raiders are toxic.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I joined an unsynced zurvan ex pf near the beginning of SB to help a friend get her first clear. The damage was so low that not only were we unable to skip soar with a full party of 8 level 70s, I was able to hold aggro perfectly fine with broken gear in dps stance without shadewalker/shirk. I don't even know how that's possible unless they were only hitting one button every 10 seconds or something.
    Oh, I know this pain. I once joined a six DPS party and not only did we not skip Soar, we saw the first Demon's Claw. The DPS was that abysmal. I'm still baffled how that even happens.
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    akaneakki's Avatar
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    Liza Sol
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I don't even know how that's possible unless they were only hitting one button every 10 seconds or something.
    TBH, I've been in zurvans recently and nobody seems to know how to do towers or people who join and claim they know fight, then 10 wipes later saying they need practice.
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