Results 1 to 10 of 2057

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    AphraelAmarantha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    197
    Character
    Aphrael Amarantha
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 51
    Well, I wonder, what can the devs do to help make it easier for people to actually know the fight (not just the mechanics but the sequence of events), especially for people like me who can't memorize all the stuff that happens in a scripted battle like this or doing things over and over doesn't help them? I write things down after watching vids but that doesn't help me if I don't have enough down time to look at my sheet. Actually, maybe this question should be saved for a different thread.
    (1)
    #KeepPvPOutOfMyMMOs

  2. #2
    Player
    akaneakki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    857
    Character
    Liza Sol
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Well, I wonder, what can the devs do to help make it easier for people to actually know the fight (not just the mechanics but the sequence of events), especially for people like me who can't memorize all the stuff that happens in a scripted battle like this or doing things over and over doesn't help them? I write things down after watching vids but that doesn't help me if I don't have enough down time to look at my sheet. Actually, maybe this question should be saved for a different thread.
    Well I will make it simple, not everyone learns fights as good as others or evem memorize them as easy as others. I know this is true, but that's not the case in most scenarios. Most people claim they know but they don't. Example is when you said people know the fight back of their hand but yet they cause wipes or near wipes or even close to enrage to fights because they can't deal with both doing damage and mechanics. The game is already so madly scripted, there is nothing the devs can do to make them easier besides less punishment, but they already did that in ex, both lakashmi and susano. If someone goes wrong way with thunder mark, it's easily doable to recover. Honestly I wouldn't even mind doing duties with you or ever raids whatever with you, to help you out, however we are on 2 completely different data centers. I believe many people can get better if they are willing too. I have honestly met so many players who was very bottom players and now avaible to clear or have cleared fight slike ultimate coil. It's just the part you are willing to listen and take tips from players, much as many in here wants to help people improve their dps. Nobody can improve their gameplay when the person who needs help find it as harrasement. To me when you said it's kinda elitist to make someone do something in a certain fight, didn't bother me, what bothers me is that's all they can come up with, because it shows we are right about them and they don't give a rats ass about trying to improve.
    (1)
    Last edited by akaneakki; 12-12-2017 at 01:00 PM.

  3. #3
    Player
    AphraelAmarantha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    197
    Character
    Aphrael Amarantha
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    snip

    Yeah, sorry, I want trying to sound like that (emotions run high for me when I see threads like this, so I usually don't reply in them) but yes, I've kinda noticed it's a circular argument here. One side will say one thing all the time and the other side does the same but the opposite thus it goes round and round. Its why this thread is at 193 pages lol.

    Again though, I think it comes back down to this: what can the devs do to force people who aren't willing to learn to actually learn? Should they do like Ult Coil and do a flat out lockout until they beat Savage (I have no problem with this tbh, I will never be good enough to get that far lol). Should the next expansion have a totally new difficulty curve for the msq, requiring players to know how to do things so they can be prepared for higher difficulty content? I don't think there is an easy answer to this and unfortunately, as I said previously, you can't stop the people who aren't willing to learn to buy the game and screw others over.
    (0)
    #KeepPvPOutOfMyMMOs

  4. #4
    Player
    Yeol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    1,308
    Character
    Dr Yeol
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    ... for people like me who can't memorize all the stuff that happens in a scripted battle like this or doing things over and over doesn't help them? I write things down after watching vids but that doesn't help me if I don't have enough down time to look at my sheet.
    No problem at all
    If you play with friends/static, there is usually someone giving callouts. So you don't have to memorize encounters. Eventually, It'll become like a song that plays in your head. You will remember bits of it at least.
    (3)
    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018