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  1. #21
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    To be fair, the only reason AV is terrible is because of all the awful mob movement patterns that result in needlessly larger pulls than intended, making it a nightmare for tanks and healers.
    The vault is a healer nightmare cause people that ignore mechanics will drain your MP trying to fix their mistakes.
    In SB, I'd say it would be Bardams that holds this honor as between the mobs hitting much harder, tedious 2nd boss and the healer pain of the last boss (granted not as difficult as the vault) it's just not very enjoyable overall.
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  2. #22
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    The SB leveling dungeon were not only easier, but people started killing the mobs in packs of 2-4. The good part is the dungeon is finished alot faster, the downside, when doing it for the first time, you rush it.
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  3. #23
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    Leowilde's Avatar
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    Aegis Corona
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    Phantom
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    Dragoon Lv 88
    One thing I liked about the Sirensong Sea (which is possibly the easiest dungeon ever btw), is the intro. Fighting on the ship, seeing the ship strand on the shore and jump off - I dunno, there's just something about that ship-sequence that feels immersive.
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  4. #24
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    and imagine if some weaklings would have killed Haurchefant? not very plausible.
    You just HAD to bring that up, didn't you?
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  5. #25
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    Apple Jinx
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I'd argue that castrum abania is pretty hard. Especially the final boss where it becomes almost impossible to beat with 2 stacks.
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  6. #26
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Lamia
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    Lancer Lv 70
    And here I thought Bardam's Mettle was pretty challenging.
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  7. #27
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    Leowilde's Avatar
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    Aegis Corona
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    Phantom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    And here I thought Bardam's Mettle was pretty challenging.
    Bardam's Mettle is quite entertaining, if you ask me. It's nice with something that isn't just plain fighting. But then I always enjoyed aoe dodging and such, which is probably why I like Titan.
    Bardam's doesn't seem very popular though.
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  8. #28
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Bardam's Mettle is at that awkward level where all the gear you've saved up poetics for officially is not good enough anymore.

    The first pull can absolutely flatten a tank if they try for too many. Even under cooldowns.
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  9. #29
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    To be fair, the only reason AV is terrible is because of all the awful mob movement patterns that result in needlessly larger pulls than intended, making it a nightmare for tanks and healers.
    AV isn't so bad if you have a good tank.
    And by good tank I mean one which has patience and can wait for the right time and place to make a pull so as to not pull more than needed. Too few tanks in this game seems to know how to do that.
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  10. #30
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    [...]has patience and can wait for the right time [...]
    To few PEOPLE have that. Everything these days is turning into a "I want it, and I want it last week!" situation(both in game and out of game). I see it everyday on my way home from work, people shoving past others to get on the train/bus, and shoving past someone who is half sitting to get the seat they were about to sit in.

    In game, it's people not wanting to wait for mechanics to be explained to a new person, or not wanting to wait the 30sec for a cut scene before a boss fight and locking someone out(has happened to me a few times in the past). There are countless examples that can be found in the game of a lack of patience, and it's not just the tanks.
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