Why no “Duty Roulette: Raids”?

[Selfie319]

The addition of one for 24-Man raids is great. I’m still considered a somewhat new player even though I’m in Stormblood end game and loving Deltascape, I’ve been around for less than a half year and just returned for SB.

I never got a chance to get into Coils of Bahamut because of Alexander, and when I queue it seems like it’s essentially never going to pop.

I’d love to have some incentive for people to explore all of the raid content that is available still, otherwise what was the point of creating them?

[ManuelBravo]

That is kind of what FC /friend list are for and now a days people run it unsync and help out more rather than normal just to speed run it.

[HyoMinPark]

While an 8-man Raid Roulette would be nice, it probably would not include Coil because Coil is ARR's equivalent to Savage. In ARR, there was no division of the Story Mode 8-man and Savage Mode 8-man: they were one and the same. Second Coil Savage was basically the Savage version of Savage (it was the closest thing one could consider a predecessor to Ultimate).

[Selfie319]

That is kind of what FC /friend list are for and now a days people run it unsync and help out more rather than normal just to speed run it.

You’re right. I suppose my FC just doesn’t run things often.

[ManuelBravo]

You’re right. I suppose my FC just doesn’t run things often.

If your fairly new ask them, I'm sure you can get it done maybe in 1 hours or less the full coil just speed running it with a competent group. Some FC love the bonus too.

[Abelfei]

PF usually gets you a group for any raid within minutes.

[Nyxn607]

PF usually gets you a group for any raid within minutes.

Especially if you give people bonus Poetics. Your group will fill up relatively quickly.

[Raldo]

Surprised nobody's said it yet, but the short answer is that nobody's going to want to run these with the level caps on, even with the +20% echo they give you in coil. Randomly getting Turn 4 of Second Coil in your roulette would be an instant-leave for most people. I certainly don't trust your average dunce-cap rando to be able to handle all of the instant-death mechanics. Plus, even if people aren't new, I certainly don't remember how to handle all the mechanics in Second Coil Turn 3; that was over two years ago.

If you want to do coil, look in the party finder, or make your own. Heck, you can actually solo turn 3, because it's just trash mobs (and a bouncy-castle maze).

Also, if it makes things any easier for you, I've 3-manned the entirety of coil for a friend (WHM + PLD + BRD; unsynced, obviously), with the exception of Turn 9 (Second Coil, Turn 4) because the latter half of that fight has a debuff (ice) that cycles through all party members and will kill you faster than you can clear it off. We threw up a party finder to clear turn 9 and had it done in mere minutes.


With all that said, a raid roulette excluding coil would be acceptable. Alexander and deltascape are both faceroll content even with a level cap. I'd actually like this roulette, because I still haven't run the 2nd and 3rd sections of Alexander.

[NephthysVasudan]

Its likely been said - but as I've asked this question as well - no one wants to run the 8 man raids synced. But if the incentives are high enough - it may redeem itself in terms of popularity.

[Silver-Strider]

Unless they nerf Coils to be as faceroll as Alexander and Deltascape normal modes, no one in their right minds is going to run that roulette.

With all the mechanics Coils had, many of which would wipe parties if done incorrectly, it wasn't exactly fun when Coils was relevant much less so now that you can run them unsynched and STILL die to those same mechanics.