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  1. #11
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Please don't encourage such atrocities... This game is already dumbed down as it is. They don't need to push the only good side of the game left into PvP's current mediocrity. A handful of skills could use a rework for sure, but that's it.
    Its not dumbing down it fixes button bloat.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 11-28-2017 at 02:50 AM.

  2. #12
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    Luna Tsukihime
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    Odin
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    Glad to see some positive posts too.

    As for having enough buttons 'now' what will happen next expansion?
    When they add even more skills?

    Then suddenly it's no longer enough.
    (3)

  3. #13
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Hopefully never. If I wanted to watch a game play itself I'd go watch someone on twitch.
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  4. #14
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    Dippin' Dots
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Its not dumbing down it fixes button bloat.
    Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.

    Changing a basic 1-2-3 to the "pvp" system as OP likes to call it is one thing, but putting the same system in place for PvE would be a disaster.
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    "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong." - Mordin Solus

  5. #15
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    Luna Tsukihime
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.

    Changing a basic 1-2-3 to the "pvp" system as OP likes to call it is one thing, but putting the same system in place for PvE would be a disaster.
    As I said in my initial post, it would need changes.
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  6. #16
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.
    What job can you possibly be playing so that "fusing a combo in a single slot" is "half your kit" ?

    Considering that this could also technically increase the number of skills without touching the number of slots.
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  7. #17
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotsforlife View Post
    Removing half a kit is bloat? Okay then.

    Changing a basic 1-2-3 to the "pvp" system as OP likes to call it is one thing, but putting the same system in place for PvE would be a disaster.
    Hitting 1 2 3 does not take more skill than hitting 1 button that changes. Changing skills would save so much space on the cross hotbar.
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  8. #18
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    What job can you possibly be playing so that "fusing a combo in a single slot" is "half your kit" ?
    Are you serious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Hitting 1 2 3 does not take more skill than hitting 1 button that changes. Changing skills would save so much space on the cross hotbar.
    There's more to a kit than a single 123 rotation ya know.
    (0)
    "Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong." - Mordin Solus

  9. #19
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Tried PvP DRG, it's boring compared to PvE DRG.

    No positionals, jumps are on 5-15 sec timers, no mirage dive, no buffs except sight.

    BRD PvP pretty much removes choice, the songs are a set rotation, some abilities are locked behind the song you are using or aren't using, vs PvE where it's all about reacting to procs and timer management.

    The auto button advance might be doable, I find it kinda weird and a good way to get carpal tunnel, (DRG has to hit it 5 times per combo) I would rather have the expanded combo.
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  10. #20
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    Luna Tsukihime
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    Odin
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    Okay, one last time.

    I do not want a 1-1 copy of the system.
    I want the improvement and the obvious streamlining.

    Please understand that, we DO suffer from overburdened hotbars/crossbars, there is no arguing that.

    What I seek is that we get the possibility of improving it, not throwing out all old stuff, but to expand on what we CAN have.
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